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    Advice on Dealing with Trolling

    Admin upon advice of mods has added the following to The Political Forums Revised Rules and Regulations under Guideline:

    Trolling reports will be considered only if you can point out violations of rules. Otherwise, the best advice for dealing with trolling is to simply ignore it.
    More generally mods have the following advice:

    We're a little society here, and societies ostracize those who don't belong. One way is by ignoring them.

    The initial reaction to a troll is anger, but that just feeds the troll. Over time, they're seen for what they are, made fun of, then paid less and less attention. When they're ignored--not fed, they'll go away. Newbies will fall for it, but catch on.

    Report them, but reports on trolling will be considered only if you can point out violations of rules. Mods trying to deal with them just feeds them, too, given attention, they'll troll you all more and more.

    It might be fun, sometimes, to make one dance, but that too just feeds them.

    So do nothing--ignore them, they'll get bored, and go elsewhere.

    Never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
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    There's quite a few members who hate the trolls, yet keep getting sucked into the mud dance. Not that it matters much, but I'm pretty much done here unless the bull$#@! ceases. I have less than zero interest in playing $#@!y little parlor games with $#@!s, and once I see others feeding the pigs I tune out.

    It may very well be that the forum experience in and of itself is not suited to my temperament. I sincerely have no tolerance left for flaming idiots, but I guess some people like the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Dickman View Post
    There's quite a few members who hate the trolls, yet keep getting sucked into the mud dance. Not that it matters much, but I'm pretty much done here unless the bull$#@! ceases. I have less than zero interest in playing $#@!y little parlor games with $#@!s, and once I see others feeding the pigs I tune out.

    It may very well be that the forum experience in and of itself is not suited to my temperament. I sincerely have no tolerance left for flaming idiots, but I guess some people like the game.
    OK then, what would you have us do?

    I've posed this question more than a few times and it's gone nowhere. So should Cigar be banned? Moderated? If we're going to be consistent, then everyone who posts an off-color remark on a thread is subject to moderation.

    So we can have it either way - not both ways. We can increase the moderation to the extent that only on-topic replies are acceptable and anything near the belt is actionable.

    Do you or anyone else want the latter? Be careful what you wish for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    OK then, what would you have us do?

    I've posed this question more than a few times and it's gone nowhere. So should Cigar be banned? Moderated? If we're going to be consistent, then everyone who posts an off-color remark on a thread is subject to moderation.

    So we can have it either way - not both ways. We can increase the moderation to the extent that only on-topic replies are acceptable and anything near the belt is actionable.

    Do you or anyone else want the latter? Be careful what you wish for.
    I have no problem with insults, off color remarks or general snark within the context of a thought that is at least relatively cohesive. If someone wants to call me names within a conversation, it doesn't mean $#@! to me. I have thick skin. What is beyond bull$#@! are members making twenty threads a day, answering a post with a stupid picture, or posting multiple times with half sentences of nothing but garbage.

    Do whatever you want to do, but if you guys really can't tell the difference between a troll and a wise guy, you aren't paying attention. And it has NOTHING to do with political leanings. I think Carygrant is a $#@!ing idiot, but he's no troll as far as I can tell. All I can say is it's gone beyond my ability to choose to deal with it, and that is my problem, not yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Dickman View Post
    I have no problem with insults, off color remarks or general snark within the context of a thought that is at least relatively cohesive. If someone wants to call me names within a conversation, it doesn't mean $#@! to me. I have thick skin. What is beyond bull$#@! are members making twenty threads a day, answering a post with a stupid picture, or posting multiple times with half sentences of nothing but garbage.

    Do whatever you want to do, but if you guys really can't tell the difference between a troll and a wise guy, you aren't paying attention. and it has NOTHING to do with political leanings. I think Carygrant is a $#@!ing idiot, but he's no troll as far as I can tell. all I can say is it's gone beyond my ability to choose to deal with it, and that is my problem, not yours.
    You didn't answer my question - what would you have us do?

    Ban Cigar? For what?

    Seriously, give me something. Tell me how we can deal with Cigar and everyone else fairly.

    You make the comment that you're thick-skinned to insults. I'm the same way, that's pretty clear from some of the $#@! I've taken and passed over on the forum, but some people aren't thick-skinned and are unhappy with that aspect of the forum.

    We're not going to please everyone, not by a longshot. But we can make things fair if that's the least we can do and adhere to rules that are clearly established, which we have.

    So back to my unanswered question - what are we going to nail Cigar on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    OK then, what would you have us do?

    I've posed this question more than a few times and it's gone nowhere. So should Cigar be banned? Moderated? If we're going to be consistent, then everyone who posts an off-color remark on a thread is subject to moderation.

    So we can have it either way - not both ways. We can increase the moderation to the extent that only on-topic replies are acceptable and anything near the belt is actionable.

    Do you or anyone else want the latter? Be careful what you wish for.
    The forum I just came from had the loosest rules I had ever seen. At first I loved it, because I didn't have to pull any punches. But after a while, I learned that forums that work off the chain, like my former one, can facilitate all kinds of stupidity. I finally just packed up and went Forum Shopping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbelt View Post
    The forum I just came from had the loosest rules I had ever seen. At first I loved it, because I didn't have to pull any punches. But after a while, I learned that forums that work off the chain, can facilitate all kinds of stupidity. I finally just packed up and went Forum Shopping.
    welcome to our forum. We only have 2 or 3 trolls online at any given moment, we defeat them and move on most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrassrootsConservative View Post
    welcome to our forum. We only have 2 or 3 trolls online at any given moment, we defeat them and move on most of the time.

    Someday when the post is slow , post us your CV .
    My God . That will keep as laughing foir several days . Have you actually ever had a job ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrassrootsConservative View Post
    welcome to our forum. We only have 2 or 3 trolls online at any given moment, we defeat them and move on most of the time.
    Thank you, and that is good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    OK then, what would you have us do?

    I've posed this question more than a few times and it's gone nowhere. So should Cigar be banned? Moderated? If we're going to be consistent, then everyone who posts an off-color remark on a thread is subject to moderation.

    So we can have it either way - not both ways. We can increase the moderation to the extent that only on-topic replies are acceptable and anything near the belt is actionable.

    Do you or anyone else want the latter? Be careful what you wish for.
    Why are off color remarks OK? Does name calling and coarse language really enhance a post? Isn't it really an excuse not to have to articulate your opinion - a cheap defense?
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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