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    The Oral Argument that cost the Democrats the Presidency

    This is a very interesting article that discusses the concerns that conservative Catholics and Evangelicals had with the Court and the behind the scenes movement and work they put into the election.

    “When you find yourself in the Supreme Court adverse to the Little Sisters of the Poor you might consider whether maybe you have pushed a little too far.”https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.cd80f9abb7da
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    The entire democratic platform shifted to cater to fringe groups. The bathroom issue was another example

    Obama's plan to win nearly 100% of all fringe groups gave us the Trump victory when middle class workers and religious people abandoned the party.
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    but..........all we want is the right to get married

    uh, huh, sure thing...............since most are liberals, I suppose lying just comes natural to them
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    Under Obamas leadership the left went much to far, as peter noted the bathroom thing was the last straw.
    While Obama worried about prosecuting police and starting a war on police, and was doing his bathroom thing and handing Iran 400,000,000 for hating us.

    While he concentrated on those issues he totally ignored the working middleclass and how they were hurting. That and Hillary herself cost them the election
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    There was absolutely an attack on Christianity, but to add insult to injury, they bolstered Islam at the same time.

    We had a President who made a snide comment about folks who cling to their "guns and Bibles," but can you imagine the outrage had he said "guns and Qurans?"

    The liberals set up -- and then sued -- Christian bakers who didn't want to make SS cakes, but did they target Muslim bakeries? Not a chance.

    Had they even been semi-fair about it, we would not have reached the state of unhappiness that led to Trump being elected. They unfairly went after whites in the South who had confederate flags. Suddenly, the flag was racist and it could be nothing else - only racist - and those who had one were racists. End of story.

    The chose the worst possible examples for black suspects killed by police (Michael Brown) and made a movement out of it. To top it off, when Bernie Sanders said "All lives matter," at his rally, they shouted him down in disgust. He never did that again.

    The vast majority of Americans are happy to bake SS cakes, use bathrooms with transgenders and they wnt all of us to be equal. But, they were unfairly accused.

    This is the backlash.
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    Why are you conservatives so much more concerned with how we lost than you are with how you won?

    That should be telling you something......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Why are you conservatives so much more concerned with how we lost than you are with how you won?

    That should be telling you something......
    Because your imaginary 'how' isn't based in reality or fact.
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    The democrats would never have won the debate on those religious topics. Democrats are for personal freedom even when most are not pro abortion. Telling another how to live and managing their life is a republican policy effort. Plus Hillary won the popular vote by three million votes. Republicans are engaged in identity politics which is about identifying with the working white middle and lower classes and pretending they are concerned with this niche population. The show worked as Trump talked in simple phrases of immigrant bias, hatred, racism, and misogyny. He also talked the talk when it came to more complex issues such as global warming. He won those religious people who want government to impose their religious values. And his coal and pollution talk gave hope to the Koch brothers who contributed to many local candidates even with their distaste of Trump. I am always reminded of LBJ's comment on white trash racism, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." And vote for you too - and substitute Mexican, Muslim, or immigrant in the quote if you like too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The entire democratic platform shifted to cater to fringe groups. The bathroom issue was another example

    Obama's plan to win nearly 100% of all fringe groups gave us the Trump victory when middle class workers and religious people abandoned the party.

    If you think about it currently the dems survival hinges on them NOT being able to deliver on their promises to help the poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Why are you conservatives so much more concerned with how we lost than you are with how you won?

    That should be telling you something......
    Well, what your comment tells me is two things:


    1. You clearly do not understand that why you lost - and we won - is the same thing;

    2. You have no interest in either facing that reality, or correcting the despotic aspects of your ideology that drove you to making yourself - and the hard left in general - the enemy of the people.

    Which means:

    3. Expect your results to continue, and the commensurate division. You have no interest in backing off from your antagonistic ideology. You can't even address what makes it antagonistic.

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