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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    WRONG! Its was GW Bush who said its just a goddam piece of paper! Obama never said that!
    I do love it when someone puts their stupidity in bold for the world to see.


    As for your bull$#@!?
    http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/bus...iece-of-paper/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The 14th doesn't grant birthright citizenship.

    Can you cite to any SCOTUS case on point?

    The 14th focuses on protecting the newly freed slaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    I do love it when someone puts their stupidity in bold for the world to see.


    As for your bull$#@!?
    http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/bus...iece-of-paper/
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    I do love it when someone puts their stupidity in bold for the world to see. As for your bull$#@!? http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/bus...iece-of-paper/
    I think you are mistaken. He was using the constitution as an analogy. A metaphor when considering that "we the people" give meaning to that document [constitution], which in context to the speech, was proper and grammatically correct. He did not mean it "literally."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeonPax View Post
    I think you are mistaken. He was using the constitution as an analogy. A metaphor when considering that "we the people" give meaning to that document [constitution], which in context to the speech, was proper and grammatically correct. He did not mean it "literally."
    The point of @patrickt's post isn't to quibble on the context of Obama's statement. It is to illustrate the silliness of the leftist meme - the commonly accepted and believed leftist meme - that Bush uttered something, and Obama did not.

    Obviously, the opposite is true. Regardless of context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decedent View Post
    Originalists are basically conservative political activist judges. They pretend to know that the Framers were thinking 250 years go. They use flimsy evidence to do so. In other words, they use originalism as an excuse to rule based on their political agenda. This makes their rulings very predictable and without accountability, as we saw with Scalia.


    Here's an example: Scalia thought that the Framers thought that corporations had rights that people have. The result was Citizens United -- one of the most ridiculous decisions in the history of the SCOTUS.
    Not nearly as ridiculous as finding a right to an abortion in the Constitution and Scalia was right. Corporations have certain rights and responsibilities of a person.

    I understand your problem in that you hate anyone funding a political party that isn't the Democrat Party or even further left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeonPax View Post
    I think you are mistaken. He was using the constitution as an analogy. A metaphor when considering that "we the people" give meaning to that document [constitution], which in context to the speech, was proper and grammatically correct. He did not mean it "literally."
    No, I believe you are mistaken. If you're considering context, remember that Barack Obama gave lectures in the University of Chicago on what's wrong with the Constitution. Remember that Democrats want to believe the Constitution is a living document and when the framers said, "Congress shall pass no law abridging the freedom of speech" that the framers clearly didn't mean hate speech or rude speech or microaggressions or politically incorrect speech.

    And, when Obama says it's just a piece of parchment and what matters is what Democrats want to do, that's exactly what he means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeonPax View Post
    I think you are mistaken. He was using the constitution as an analogy. A metaphor when considering that "we the people" give meaning to that document [constitution], which in context to the speech, was proper and grammatically correct. He did not mean it "literally."
    If you continue to listen to the next 30 seconds he says the Constitution has no power other than what we give it by our decisions, our choices, and our alliances. In other words, the Constitution means what we want it to from moment to moment. President Obama is no Constitutional defender.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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    I make a statement about a comment from Barack Obama. A leftists says not only did Obama never say it but George Bush did. When that fails we have that taken in context Barack Obama was not denigrating the Constitution. That failed, too.

    Have you ever wondered why the left hasn't amended the Constitution to legalize abortion at will, ban all firearms from citizens, do away with the First Amendment, and give us their dream of a dictator? Because the Constitution, that "just a piece of parchment" stops them. That's what the king hates, that's what Democrats hate, and that's why the left has to do away with the Constitution by force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decedent View Post
    Originalists are basically conservative political activist judges. They pretend to know that the Framers were thinking 250 years go. They use flimsy evidence to do so. In other words, they use originalism as an excuse to rule based on their political agenda. This makes their rulings very predictable and without accountability, as we saw with Scalia.


    Here's an example: Scalia thought that the Framers thought that corporations had rights that people have. The result was Citizens United -- one of the most ridiculous decisions in the history of the SCOTUS.
    "Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. Holding: Political spending is a form of protected speech under the First Amendment, and the government may not keep corporations or unions from spending money to support or denounce individual candidates in elections.Jan 21, 2010"Do you believe the federal government should have the power to determine what is and what is not political speech?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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