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    I don't think the Muslim refugees in the "more happy" EU countries were asked for their input or we might have a little resistance in those figures.
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    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    The first point is rather obvious and Canada is rather freakish assuming Canadian happiness with diversity is not entirely an official fiction. Secondly, are these "some sociologists" seriously suggesting that there is significantly less ethnic segregation and economic inequality (as it correlates with race) in the countries of western Europe, for example?




    Increasing levels of socio-economic segregation in response to globalisation, the restructuring of the economy and the labour market, neo-liberal politics and – in some cities – declining investments in the social rental housing sector are direct causes of the increasing segregation. This conclusion is drawn from rigorous data analysis by teams in Madrid, Milan, Tallinn, London, Stockholm, Vienna, Athens, Amsterdam, Budapest, Riga, Vilnius, Prague, and Oslo (ranked from highest to lowest level of segregation), who examined comparable information (e.g. on income and jobs) for each city. Drawing on the literature, they developed predictions concerning segregation in each of the thirteen cities and tested them in practice. They linked the assessment to an in-depth analysis of the unique local situation and policy in each city.
    http://segregationeurope.tudelft.nl/index.php/book/
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    IOW, as Europe becomes more diverse segregation has increased. Gee, who could have predicted that?

    White Flight UK...

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...tion-across-uk

    Segregation in the Île-de-France...

    http://msg.wgsr.uw.edu.pl/wp-content...rzegorczyk.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyz View Post
    I don't think the Muslim refugees in the "more happy" EU countries were asked for their input or we might have a little resistance in those figures.
    They are kept separate thus the general happiness of the host population.
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    Granny says, "Dat's right...

    ... but it sho' makes misery...

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    Just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The first point is rather obvious and Canada is rather freakish assuming Canadian happiness with diversity is not entirely an official fiction. Secondly, are these "some sociologists" seriously suggesting that there is significantly less ethnic segregation and economic inequality (as it correlates with race) in the countries of western Europe, for example?






    http://segregationeurope.tudelft.nl/index.php/book/
    The appearance of ethnic ghettos in Europe precedes the current migration crisis. Some countries chose to import massive amounts of "temporary" immigrant labor who would work for third world prices, but made no plan for what would happen if they didn't need them anymore. They stuffed them into third world ghettos for decades and now in combination with refugee migration are paying the price for false economy. You can't bring in people who acclimatise to the society and have children in the society in which they live and then treat them like trash.

    In the decades that followed all of that importation of labor, the laws changed.

    The moral of the story is that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't use people and then throw them away.

    Places like Canada have a different protocol. They don't import "temporary" foreign labor except in agriculture and then the visas are for the picking season alone. For the most part immigrants must satisfy a threshold for skill and education, notwithstanding honoring the need to bring in refugees. Massive ghettos of any specific ethnicity do not exist in Canada. There are ethnic enclaves, but they are neither poor nor crime-ridden. There are poor areas, but they don't comprise any specific ethnic demographic.
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    But consider these facts from a recent Toronto Star series on Race and Policing. Black males living in Toronto are three times more likely to be carded by police, no matter where they live; police stop residents more frequently in neighbourhoods that are largely populated by people of colour. Not only are racialized people considered a greater crime threat, they also face greater surveillance. Studies have also documented racial disparities in income, health status, services, civic participation and in the labour market. Employment and income disparities persist for racialized people in Toronto and Canada, regardless of education. They are more likely to be unemployed and underemployed even though they are more willing and available to work.

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    The dream of a racism-free society is still rather elusive. Those who think Canada is post-racial may wish to review the recently released report from the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination looking at Canada’s compliance with the international law on racial equality. The committee acknowledges a number of positive steps taken by Canada, but also expresses these concerns: growing socio-economic gaps among ethnic groups; racial profiling, particularly of African-Canadians by police; overrepresentation of aboriginal and African Canadians in the prison population, and the discrimination they face generally in the criminal justice system. The UN report highlights violence and other issues facing aboriginal women. And it warns that changes to Canada’s refugee system will discriminate against refugees from so-called “safe countries.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    The appearance of ethnic ghettos in Europe precedes the current migration crisis. Some countries chose to import massive amounts of "temporary" immigrant labor who would work for third world prices, but made no plan for what would happen if they didn't need them anymore. They stuffed them into third world ghettos for decades and now in combination with refugee migration are paying the price for false economy. You can't bring in people who acclimatise to the society and have children in the society in which they live and then treat them like trash.

    In the decades that followed all of that importation of labor, the laws changed.

    The moral of the story is that there is no such thing as a free lunch. You can't use people and then throw them away.

    Places like Canada have a different protocol. They don't import "temporary" foreign labor except in agriculture and then the visas are for the picking season alone. For the most part immigrants must satisfy a threshold for skill and education, notwithstanding honoring the need to bring in refugees. Massive ghettos of any specific ethnicity do not exist in Canada. There are ethnic enclaves, but they are neither poor nor crime-ridden. There are poor areas, but they don't comprise any specific ethnic demographic.
    That's nice. Just stating the facts. We can discuss their interpretation tomorrow perhaps.

    Yes, places like Canada do have a different protocol. They don't import legions of unskilled, uneducated migrants. That would be insane yet you appear to think it's wise and just for the US.
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