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    Why The Healthcare Bill Should And Did Fail

    I read this article at Reason, a libertarian publication, and it explains perfectly why Trump's plan to "repeal and replace" Obamacare failed and should have failed.

    In short, Trump is a dilettante when it comes to the substance of political policies. By all accounts, Trump has no knowledge of or interest in the details of his own healthcare plan. He seems far more interested in making a deal, any deal, than he does in learning what the policy actually entails and why people should support it.

    Trump came into the office of the presidency with no understanding of or appreciation for the historical and legal minutia of the institution or the US government in general. I doubt he knows the difference between the Federalist Papers and Federal Express. If Trump has ANY hope of taking charge of the political agenda in DC, he better start educating himself on the details and substance of complex policies issues. Touting deals purely for their own sake simply isn't going to cut it.
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    It simply was not a conservative bill. And had it become one the moderates would not have supported it.

    Let Obamacare cash then tell congress to come to him with a plan.
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    It failed because constituents -- Republican and Democrat -- told their representatives that they didn't like the bill. It had a 17% approval rating.

    You probably don't want to know why they didn't like the bill, but it's safe to say that many could have been benefiting from Obamacare.


    It turns out that taking healthcare access away from millions of people isn't going to be so easy after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I read this article at Reason, a libertarian publication, and it explains perfectly why Trump's plan to "repeal and replace" Obamacare failed and should have failed.

    In short, Trump is a dilettante when it comes to the substance of political policies. By all accounts, Trump has no knowledge of or interest in the details of his own healthcare plan. He seems far more interested in making a deal, any deal, than he does in learning what the policy actually entails and why people should support it.

    Trump came into the office of the presidency with no understanding of or appreciation for the historical and legal minutia of the institution or the US government in general. I doubt he knows the difference between the Federalist Papers and Federal Express. If Trump has ANY hope of taking charge of the political agenda in DC, he better start educating himself on the details and substance of complex policies issues. Touting deals purely for their own sake simply isn't going to cut it.
    You read a hit piece. Nothing more.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Put another way, Trump has no core political philosophy. He is not anchored by a set of principles that he can rely upon when issues become murky and complex. He's basically flying by the seat of his pants and taking a casual attitude towards governing. If I were Trump's adviser, I would badger him until he agreed to take a couple of weeks at Martha's Vineyard and read The Federalist Papers over and over again until it got into his bones. Unfortunately, Trump is not the kind of person who would ever agree to something like that. As far as he is concerned, he's got everything figured out and doesn't need the wisdom of a Hamilton or a Madison. Something tells me he probably doesn't even know who those guys are or why they would be worth reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    You read a hit piece. Nothing more.
    I read an article that describes Trump pretty well. I'm sorry if any criticism of dear leader is upsetting to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Put another way, Trump has no core political philosophy. He is not anchored by a set of principles that he can rely upon when issues become murky and complex. He's basically flying by the seat of his pants and taking a casual attitude towards governing. If I were Trump's adviser, I would badger him until he agreed to take a couple of weeks at Martha's Vineyard and read The Federalist Papers over and over again until it got into his bones. Unfortunately, Trump is not the kind of person who would ever agree to something like that. As far as he is concerned, he's got everything figured out and doesn't need the wisdom of a Hamilton or a Madison. Something tells me he probably doesn't even know who those guys are or why they would be worth reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decedent View Post
    It failed because constituents -- Republican and Democrat -- told their representatives that they didn't like the bill. It had a 17% approval rating.

    You probably don't want to know why they didn't like the bill, but it's safe to say that many could have been benefiting from Obamacare.


    It turns out that taking healthcare access away from millions of people isn't going to be so easy after all.
    I know why conservatives did not like the bill, because it left much of Obamacare's core failures in place.

    The majority of the country has always been opposed to Obamacare, so getting rid of it makes good sense all around.

    The problem is that Paul Ryan and the clueless Trump tried to slip Obamacare Lite past conservative Republicans and it did not work.
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    I think President Trump is trying but I can understand a lifelong Democrat not understanding that some Americans don't want the government to control their health care.

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    Why AMAC Supports the House Plan to Repeal and Replace Obamacare


    As a first step, the AHCA lays the necessary foundation for more robust and necessary changes to repeal Obamacare in its entirety.During our conversations with Freedom Caucus Republicans, House Leadership, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Trump Administration, AMAC has chosen to support the AHCA for the following reasons:


    Obamacare is unsustainable


    Elimination of the individual and employer mandates imposed by the Federal Government


    Expanded use of Health Savings Accounts (HSA)


    It protects those who had no choice but to get on an Obamacare Exchange


    It’s a first step


    Conclusion

    Seniors have worked to take their country back and to ensure they leave a better, more prosperous future for their children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. This first step in repealing and replacing Obamacare isn’t about a single bill—it’s about returning power to the states, shrinking the federal government, and putting health care decisions back into the hands of the patients.


    Just as seniors have done in the past, if this process does not lead to the results we want—well, our track-record is pretty strong. We’ll hold our elected leaders accountable at the ballot box.....snip~


    http://onenationhealth.org/2017/03/1...ace-obamacare/


    Say Ta Ta.....goodbye.....C-ya, wouldn't want to be ya. To half the Freedom Caucus. We will dance on your early graves. Best go with cremation.

    Oh and lets see any mope try and say AMAC isn't Conservative.
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