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Thread: Why is it incorrect to say that all Muslims are terrorists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonFrijoles View Post
    The topic here is Islam and Muslims. If you want to either promote or criticize another faith, that should be done in another thread.

    And I am not asking for anecdotal evidence. Personal anecdotal evidence has little or no value.

    Why am I a fool to suggest that all Muslims are terrorists? I would submit that belief in terrorist ideology makes a person a terrorist, even if such person does not commit terrorist acts. Furthermore, any attempt to whitewash it and either wish or pretend that it doesn't exist lumps that person in the same boat.
    I'm sorry you didn't read your original post. "Why is it incorrect to say all Muslims are terrorists?" It never dawned on me you weren't bright enough to write a post that accurately reflected the question you were posting.

    And, anecdotal evidence that produces one Muslim who isn't a terrorists explains quite clearly why it's incorrect to say all Muslims are terrorists. We know, for a fact, there are millions of Muslims who aren't terrorists.
    Last edited by patrickt; 03-26-2017 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    I'm sorry you didn't read your original post. "Why is it incorrect to say all Muslims are terrorists?" It never dawned on me you weren't bright enough to write a post that accurately reflected the question you were posting.

    And, anecdotal evidence that produces one Muslim who isn't a terrorists explains quite clearly why it's incorrect to say all Muslims are terrorists. We know, for a fact, there are millions of Muslims who aren't terrorists.
    You are entitled to believe that some Muslim you have known is not a terrorist, but why should I believe you? His God says any Muslim should kill me if given the chance. Are you telling me that your acquaintance thinks his God is wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Now you're just flailing.

    I've shown that not all Muslims are terrorists -- that was your OP question.

    I'm getting bored now since you have nothing valid to add or to dispute that, and I've work to do, so have a good day.
    You were flailing when you said that murder for non belief only applies to apostasy. Do you think that's ok?

    They nevertheless subscribe to a terrorist ideology. If some Muslim who had previously never killed anybody suddenly decides to kill a non believer, in what way would that Muslim be derelict in his religious duty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Timothy mcveigh and Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski were Muslim?
    I don't think I ever said they were Muslim. Nevertheless, when there are terrorist attacks, the phrase most commonly heard seems to be somebody hollering Allah Akbar, or something along those lines.


    Now it may very well be true that Timothy McVeigh hollered Merry Christmas. Even if he did, does that get Muslims off the hook? When Muslims do it, aren't they just doing what their Allah guy tells them to do anyway?

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    Because they're not. It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Because they're not. It's that simple.
    So just to clarify, are you saying that there is no suggestion whatsoever anywhere in Islamic scripture that says that non Muslims should be terrorized and/or killed?

    Are you saying that nowhere where Sharia Law is the law of the land is there a requirement to kill somebody for non belief?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonFrijoles View Post
    You were flailing when you said that murder for non belief only applies to apostasy. Do you think that's ok?
    You were wrong about that. Not only do I think murder is wrong -- so do the majority of Muslims. You got nothing.
    They nevertheless subscribe to a terrorist ideology. If some Muslim who had previously never killed anybody suddenly decides to kill a non believer, in what way would that Muslim be derelict in his religious duty?
    Your scenario is a pipe dream. It's not happening.

    You're trying very hard here to push a false narrative. Why?
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    UOTE=FindersKeepers;1975995]You were wrong about that. Not only do I think murder is wrong -- so do the majority of Muslims. You got nothing.


    Your scenario is a pipe dream. It's not happening.

    You're trying very hard here to push a false narrative. Why?[/QUOTE]


    I have plenty to go on, and nothing I have said about the Koran is false.

    Why should I believe that the majority of Muslims disapprove of murder when their Allah guy demands that they should kill non believers? It is very explicitly demanded in many non abrogated Koran verses.

    It comes down to differing concepts of what constitutes murder. It comes down to differing concepts of what is right and wrong. You and I must surely agree that killing a person for non belief is wrong. You and I must surely agree that having sex with captured slave girls is wrong. You and I must surely agree that stealing from somebody simply because of non belief is wrong. You and I must surely agree that violence against women is wrong.

    The trouble is that their Allah guy not only says those things are ok, he actually ORDERS that such things be done. Therefore, in a Muslim's mind he is doing nothing wrong. After all, for a Muslim to suggest his God is wrong amounts to blasphemy.

    If they kill a non believer, they are, in their minds and according to Islamic law, not committing murder. They are killing a person who is guilty of Islam's worst sin. Islam's worst sin in non belief. They are, in their minds, punishing a guilty person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonFrijoles View Post
    You are entitled to believe that some Muslim you have known is not a terrorist, but why should I believe you? His God says any Muslim should kill me if given the chance. Are you telling me that your acquaintance thinks his God is wrong?
    No. But I knew Muslims who were good people, loved their wife and children, worked hard, and were good Americans. And, I knew Christians who I arrested for fraud, who I arrest for incest, and who I arrested for rape but I never was stupid enough to say they represented all Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    No. But I knew Muslims who were good people, loved their wife and children, worked hard, and were good Americans. And, I knew Christians who I arrested for fraud, who I arrest for incest, and who I arrested for rape but I never was stupid enough to say they represented all Christians.
    And yet a sizable number of them prefer Sharia to western civilization. Have you ever wondered why Islamofascists always appear where ever Muslims accumulate?


    The problem is Islam. It is a political construct designed to subjugate everyone, everywhere.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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