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    Why is it incorrect to say that all Muslims are terrorists?

    Purely based on their own theology, I think a strong case can be made that all Muslims are terrorists.

    Even if they don't commit terrorist acts, they aid and abet those that do, and are therefore guilty by association. The same goes for those non Muslims who apologize for them and/or otherwise aid and abet them.
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    The "guilt by association" thing isn't valid. Either a person is guilty -- or not.

    Most Muslims have no intention of harming anyone.

    However, there are some who do -- and they are an issue.

    Unfortunately, a rather high proportion of non-US Muslims support terrorism in one form or another.

    But, not, the majority of Muslims are not terrorists. The ones I know, personally, are good people, good businessmen and fun to be around.

    I would not give you two cents, however, for the ones that make their women cover themselves from head to toe. I have a real problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    The "guilt by association" thing isn't valid. Either a person is guilty -- or not.

    Most Muslims have no intention of harming anyone.

    However, there are some who do -- and they are an issue.

    Unfortunately, a rather high proportion of non-US Muslims support terrorism in one form or another.

    But, not, the majority of Muslims are not terrorists. The ones I know, personally, are good people, good businessmen and fun to be around.

    I would not give you two cents, however, for the ones that make their women cover themselves from head to toe. I have a real problem with that.

    The Koran and Hadith clearly mandate the death penalty for those who do not believe. Verse 4-89 says that. So does verse 9-5. Verse 4-34 clearly mandates violence against women.

    Have any Muslims you know condemned those things? If they have, are they not saying their God is wrong? If they say their God is wrong, why would you still think they are Muslims? Wouldn't that be blasphemy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonFrijoles View Post
    The Koran and Hadith clearly mandate the death penalty for those who do not believe. Verse 4-89 says that. So does verse 9-5. Verse 4-34 clearly mandates violence against women.

    Have any Muslims you know condemned those things? If they have, are they not saying their God is wrong? If they say their God is wrong, why would you still think they are Muslims? Wouldn't that be blasphemy?
    The God of Abraham advocated killing little boys of the enemy and keeping the little virgin girls for themselves. Do you see many Christians doing that? Are they blasphemous for not doing it?

    Let's not even get started on the comparisons.

    Suffice it to say that today's Christians are typically better than some of the examples in the Bible and today's Muslims are for the most part better than some of the examples in the Quran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    The God of Abraham advocated killing little boys of the enemy and keeping the little virgin girls for themselves. Do you see many Christians doing that? Are they blasphemous for not doing it?

    Let's not even get started on the comparisons.

    Suffice it to say that today's Christians are typically better than some of the examples in the Bible and today's Muslims are for the most part better than some of the examples in the Quran.
    The argument for or against Christians or anybody else is not the issue here. I am asking about Muslims.

    I agree. Let's not get started in comparisons. It's a diversion from the topic.


    So, to expand on your point, do you believe that Sharia Law is peaceful? How do you believe most Muslims think about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonFrijoles View Post
    The argument for or against Christians or anybody else is not the issue here. I am asking about Muslims.

    I agree. Let's not get started in comparisons. It's a diversion from the topic.


    So, to expand on your point, do you believe that Sharia Law is peaceful? How do you think most Muslims think about it?
    Sharia law is neither "peaceful" or "non peaceful." It's antiquated and patriarchal. It's a shame some still abide by it.

    But, we cannot make the assumptions you're making without the comparisons to other religions. It's not a diversion -- it's a valid parallel to show how off-base you are. If your claim is that Muslims must be terrorist because of some archaic passages, it's fair game to point out passages from other holy books to show that religious passages do not terrorists make because there is not a literal translation in today's world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Sharia law is neither "peaceful" or "non peaceful." It's antiquated and patriarchal. It's a shame some still abide by it.

    But, we cannot make the assumptions you're making without the comparisons to other religions. It's not a diversion -- it's a valid parallel to show how off-base you are. If your claim is that Muslims must be terrorist because of some archaic passages, it's fair game to point out passages from other holy books to show that religious passages do not terrorists make because there is not a literal translation in today's world.

    1. Sharia Law clearly calls for the death penalty for those who do not believe. How is that neither evil or not evil? How is that merely patriarchal?

    2. Discussing other religions clearly is a diversion. Islam makes extraordinary claims for itself. It claims to be the final word of God that makes all other beliefs either invalid or unequal. Therefore it must stand on the basis of its own merits without comparison to anything else, whether that something else is another religion or outright non belief in anything.


    And....you still have not answered my previous question. How do you believe most Muslims think about Sharia Law? If most Muslims believe in Sharia Law, how can you say that they believe their Koran to be archaic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonFrijoles View Post
    Purely based on their own theology, I think a strong case can be made that all Muslims are terrorists.

    Even if they don't commit terrorist acts, they aid and abet those that do, and are therefore guilty by association. The same goes for those non Muslims who apologize for them and/or otherwise aid and abet them.
    It's incorrect for the same reason it's incorrect to say all whites are racists, all Mexicans are illegal aliens, all Jews are rich, all Christians hate, or all blacks are thugs. It's not just incorrect it ignorant, stupid, illogical, and makes you look like a total fool.

    I've known Muslims who were good, decent people and I've known Christians I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. Some in the news that come to mind are Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, Jesse Jackson, Garner Ted Armstrong, Al Sharpton, and probably anyone in the Westboro Baptist Church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    It's incorrect for the same reason it's incorrect to say all whites are racists, all Mexicans are illegal aliens, all Jews are rich, all Christians hate, or all blacks are thugs. It's not just incorrect it ignorant, stupid, illogical, and makes you look like a total fool.
    All who want Sharia support subjugating us. Many don't want to be the one who cuts off your head, enslaves your wife and rapes a good Muslim baby into your daughter's belly. But they agree with the ones who do.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    All who want Sharia support subjugating us. Many don't want to be the one who cuts off your head, enslaves your wife and rapes a good Muslim baby into your daughter's belly. But they agree with the ones who do.
    if they disagree, would they not be saying that their God and prophet are wrong? Does that not make them guilty by association?

    What makes a bank robber any more or less trustworthy than the guy who sits at home and silently approves of the robbery?

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