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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    And yet a sizable number of them prefer Sharia to western civilization. Have you ever wondered why Islamofascists always appear where ever Muslims accumulate?


    The problem is Islam. It is a political construct designed to subjugate everyone, everywhere.
    And I've known a sizable number of Christians who wished the U.S. was a Christian nation, a theocracy, open to Christians only.

    The original post asked why it was incorrect to say all Muslims were whatever. Once that was answer DonFRiloles moved the goal post not just down the field but to a whole different stadium.

    Is it reasonable to say all Muslims are terrorists. It's no more reasonable than it is to say all Christians want to scrap the Constitution and has a theocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Timothy mcveigh and Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski were Muslim?
    Their strikes had religious backgrounds ? What do you want to say ? Again you did the wrong thing. You compare. But you cannot compare the Islam with other religions. Islam is not a religion, it's a how-to-live-almanach, which tells you to kill all non-muslims. You cannot deny that, since even many (ex-)muslims say exactly this.

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    Originally Posted by MisterVeritis
    And yet a sizable number of them prefer Sharia to western civilization. Have you ever wondered why Islamofascists always appear where ever Muslims accumulate?


    The problem is Islam. It is a political construct designed to subjugate everyone, everywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    And I've known a sizable number of Christians who wished the U.S. was a Christian nation, a theocracy, open to Christians only.
    How many of then are chopping heads off to influence the rest of us to go along with them.
    The original post asked why it was incorrect to say all Muslims were whatever. Once that was answer DonFRiloles moved the goal post not just down the field but to a whole different stadium.
    Is it reasonable to say all Muslims are terrorists. It's no more reasonable than it is to say all Christians want to scrap the Constitution and has a theocracy.
    Any Muslim who accepts Sharia is a terrorist or a terrorist enabler. In my opinion that accounts for most, if not all of them.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonFrijoles View Post
    Purely based on their own theology, I think a strong case can be made that all Muslims are terrorists.

    Even if they don't commit terrorist acts, they aid and abet those that do, and are therefore guilty by association. The same goes for those non Muslims who apologize for them and/or otherwise aid and abet them.
    Claiming that all Muslims are terrorists is a sure sign of ignorance.




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    Islam is not a menu choice and does not cater to neutrality or atheism. It’s based on blind belief, so off the top of my head, here are my six explanations.

    1. It is true to say that not all Muslims are terrorists. By the same token, you couldn’t say every Russian in the Soviet era was a communist. No one group is 100% anything, but it’s true to say that the vast majory of terrorism in the world today is carried out by Muslims.


    2. However, what you can say is that it’s a requirement for all Muslims to further the spread of Islam, by whatever means they can. That could include terrorism, or could be as simple as spreading the word in public, or campaigning for Sharia law, or Halal meat to be introduced.

    3. You can’t compare Islam to other religions, because it’s an ideology and religion is only one aspect of it. Islam is not just a belief, or a practice like Christianity, it’s a total submission and pervades every aspect of life.

    4. It doesn’t really matter what opinion polls are taken amongst Muslims, the Quaran is the final word built into this cult (I purposely use that word), so that nothing could be changed. This is why you will hear condemnation of an act, or even the individual, but never the reason of Islam behind the act.

    5. Islam came out of the deserts of 6th century Arabia and was introduced to unite the waring tribes of the Middle East. Imagine the 12th century Christian crusaders rampaging around the world in the 21st century and that’s what you’ve got now., except that bombs replace swords. Add on the practices of that era, the beheadings, incest amongst cousins, honour killings . . .


    6. Those are some of the reasons why Islam can’t adapt to the democracy of the 21st century and that’s not going to change. The dress, the culture, the beliefs . . . Muslims assume that Mohammed lived in the perfect society and they wish to recreate that period of history. Using western moral relativism and denying culture and beliefs are the reason the west couldn’t eradicate Islam in any country they invaded and why the mess we see around the world today, in which the majority who support Islam have failed to integrate in any country a large minority of them have been allowed to settle.
    Of course, this might not yet apply to the US who are still new to all this and Muslims still resemble an exotic and diverse cultural rarity. Europe is being ripped apart by populations who didn’t understand what Islam really is.

    Five facts about the Muslim population in Europe
    What happens when Muslims reach a percentage of the population in any country (Slavery, terrorism and Islam).

    Don’t think you in the US are somehow immune to all this. Europe has had two decades of the European Union equivalent of the Obama’s and Clinton’s. Islam is a virus and this will come to you too if you invite it in.







































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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    Islam is not a menu choice and does not cater to neutrality or atheism. It’s based on blind belief,
    Exactly the same thing is true of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Shintoism, and any other religious belief system. All faith is based on blind belief, otherwise it would be an evidence based conclusion - like the findings of a scientific study or a court of law, not faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Exactly the same thing is true of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Shintoism, and any other religious belief system. All faith is based on blind belief, otherwise it would be an evidence based conclusion - like the findings of a scientific study or a court of law, not faith.
    you have faith in science.
    explain the absolutes of the Big Bang Theory. Proven absolutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    you have faith in science.
    explain the absolutes of the Big Bang Theory. Proven absolutes.
    Saying that I might accept an evidence-based conclusion as the result of a scientific experiment, or the evidence presented in a court of law, is depending upon logic, not blind faith in anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Exactly the same thing is true of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Shintoism, and any other religious belief system. All faith is based on blind belief, otherwise it would be an evidence based conclusion - like the findings of a scientific study or a court of law, not faith.
    That was my point William, Islam is not just a religion, or something you choose, or reject parts you don’t like. That’s a western luxury thought and based on the moral relativism that all beliefs must be the same. You will search very hard to find atheists in Islamic countries. Blind Christian faith is an individual choice, there are no choices in Islam and like any cult, there is no opting out.








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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Saying that I might accept an evidence-based conclusion as the result of a scientific experiment, or the evidence presented in a court of law, is depending upon logic, not blind faith in anything.


    www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/what-is-a-straw-man-argument
    no. I challenge your "faith" in science. Science does not have all the answers. To trust that science will provide those absolutes, requires faith. So you trust that you have a soul? Or does it not matter......
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