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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Because the city gets to use the stadiums for tourism and events.
    And the Raiders wouldn't lease out a stadium? Reason they don't is because its just a lousy business proposition. The NFL would still hapoen, they'd build the stadiums, they'd be less profitable and the owners would make less and so too would the players -- unless they could just raise ticket prices. Nevertheless, there is no reason to foist the cost of this venue onto taxpayers. Other trams actually do own their stadiums by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newpublius View Post
    And the Raiders wouldn't lease out a stadium? Reason they don't is because its just a lousy business proposition. The NFL would still hapoen, they'd build the stadiums, they'd be less profitable and the owners would make less and so too would the players -- unless they could just raise ticket prices. Nevertheless, there is no reason to foist the cost of this venue onto taxpayers. Other trams actually do own their stadiums by the way.
    There are plenty of reasons for at least some of the funding to come from the city. The city benefits from the stadium and makes back what it gave them in a couple years.
    "We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality, but by the higher duty I owe to myself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newpublius View Post
    Vegas gave them money. Basically what you're saying is that the Raiders moved because the government wouldn't sjbsidize them or subsidoze them enough or as much as some other government.
    Yup , byt don't worry it benits the big businesses in the stadium district

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    There are plenty of reasons for at least some of the funding to come from the city. The city benefits from the stadium and makes back what it gave them in a couple years.
    Well then why wouldn't the Raiders do it. Here the NJ authority for the Meadowlabds finds a way to lose $26mn per year and apparently the Goants/Jets built the stadium, or at least I am led to believe. In any event, the Giants/Jets and other event holders, ie they do have concerts, should pay for that, not NJ taxpayers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newpublius View Post
    Well then why wouldn't the Raiders do it. Here the NJ authority for the Meadowlabds finds a way to lose $26mn per year and apparently the Goants/Jets built the stadium, or at least I am led to believe. In any event, the Giants/Jets and other event holders, ie they do have concerts, should pay for that, not NJ taxpayers
    I'm cool with that, so long as the city and the taxpayers don't benefit from its operations.
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    Pittsbugh voters voted down the referendum allowing tax dollars to fund new stadiums.

    So they built new stadiums with tax dollars anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newpublius View Post
    With the Raiders vacating the nearby space, the 49ers will have a larger base. For instance, my dad grew up as a baseball fan of the NY Giants. When they left, the Yankees were the logical choice. (Mets' colors are designed to draw Dodger/Giant fans)
    My poor Niners will need more than that! They'll need for the ownership/ front office to start making good decisions again. They have been a detriment to the team since Harbaugh left. Starting with appointing the OL coach of a medicore ( I'm being kind) OL to the head job. Then they went and got Chip Kelly but NO Chip Kelly type offensive players. They stayed too long with Kap, who simply can't play well enough from the pocket to win. You can't have every play be a roll out, option or scramble.
    Now the offenceless wonders spend the #3 overall pick and thier second round pick on defence . I hope they're good enough to hold up for the 40-45 minutes a game they will probably be on the field! Goos grief.

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    The "niners" should do better this year. I think John Lynch will make a good G.M. Before ccepting the job he let the owners know he wouldn't take the job if he couldn't do it his way. He's already made some good moves. The only questionable move he made in my opinion might be his choice of head coach. I hope the niners haven't made the same error as the Broncos did when they chose a great offensive coordinator who turned out to be a disastrous head coach, Josh McDaniels. He set the team back a few years.


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