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    Oil TANKERS. I can see your consternation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxcutter View Post
    Education is no excuse. The US spends more per pupil than anybody on education.

    You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
    Which is why education needs to be coupled with opportunity.

    They are co-dependent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    Oil TANKERS. I can see your consternation.
    Oops! Is it showing? *blush*

    We don't need no steenkin' oil!
    Please note: verbage enclosed by < > indicates sarcasm

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    I think we should go back to on the job training. A lot of teens are taught one way and then get into a job they are lost. Also, stick with classes that only relate to their field they are going for. That would cut the expenses.

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    Originally Posted by Taxcutter
    "Education is no excuse. The US spends more per pupil than anybody on education.

    You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

    And the last thing in the world we want to do is to hold the unionized education industry responsible for anything. We need to blame the kids, blame the parents, blame the culture, blame television, blame video games, but we have to have absolutely no accountability for teachers, administrators, and union thugs.

    You know, the same process works for police. Nothing is their problem it's just those darned crooks. And, mental health services, it's not their fault, it's all those crazy people. Oh, and health professionals. It's not their fault it the sick guy's fault so screw him.

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    Spanish. We must all learn the language of poverty, anger and lawlessness.

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    Until parents are made accountable for their children's education, then I don't anticipate a lot of improvement on the horizon.

    Despite the actions of crappy unions protecting bad teachers, there are still a lot of great teachers out there trying their best to educate our kids. So many people think that it is solely the teachers' responsibility to "educate" their kids. Well, the parents have the responsibility to raise their kids to be respectful of the teachers and staff, to see that their children are completing homework and other out-of-classroom assignments, to communicate with their kids' teachers, and be generally involved in their kids' education. Show me a failing student and I will show you an uninvolved parent. Show me a student that is living up to their educational potential, and I will show you an involved parent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenda View Post
    Until parents are made accountable for their children's education, then I don't anticipate a lot of improvement on the horizon.

    Despite the actions of crappy unions protecting bad teachers, there are still a lot of great teachers out there trying their best to educate our kids. So many people think that it is solely the teachers' responsibility to "educate" their kids. Well, the parents have the responsibility to raise their kids to be respectful of the teachers and staff, to see that their children are completing homework and other out-of-classroom assignments, to communicate with their kids' teachers, and be generally involved in their kids' education. Show me a failing student and I will show you an uninvolved parent. Show me a student that is living up to their educational potential, and I will show you an involved parent.
    BINGO!! That's it exactly. Parents need to be involved, with their kids, with their kid's teachers and school.

    What I hear is it's only getting worse. My kid years ago had some trouble in school and when I showed up to talk to a teacher she told me I had no business butting in. I went to principle and asked him how's that going to sound in the news? He scheduled a meeting with the teacher, I got her to repeat that and more, and she was set right right then and there and made to comply with doing her job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    Spanish. We must all learn the language of poverty, anger and lawlessness.
    My first foreign language was Latin. Imagine how disappointed I was finding out it was a dead language.

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