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    Want Medicaid coverage? A drug test should come first, Wisconsin governor says

    "The party of small government, individual freedom, and personal responsibility wants to decrease regulations on industry but increase them on the governance of you. If you fail to follow their arbitrary and overreaching rules, you deserve to die from lack of healthcare." - phrawgh

    Want Medicaid coverage? A drug test should come first, Wisconsin governor says

    Now that House Republicans have squandered their shot at reordering Medicaid, governors who want conservative changes in the health program for *low-income Americans must get special permission from the Trump administration.
    Near the front of the line is Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican who not only supports work requirements and premium payments but also a new additional condition: to make applicants undergo a drug test if they’re suspected of substance abuse.

    If Walker gets his way, Wisconsin would be the first state in the country with mandatory drug screening for Medicaid enrollees. The governor plans to release his proposal in mid-April and submit it to the Department of Health and Human Services by the end of May.

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    Didn't the courts B-slap the other $#@! down in Florida on that same thing?


    MIAMI — A federal appeals court on Wednesday struck down a 2011 Florida law requiring drug tests for people seeking welfare benefits even if they are not suspected of drug use, a measure pushed by Gov. Rick Scott in his first term in office.

    The three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, in Atlanta, ruled that the law, one of the strictest in the country, was an unreasonable search because Florida officials had failed to show a “substantial need” to test all people who applied for welfare benefits.

    Applicants were required to submit to urine tests, a measure that Mr. Scott said would protect children of welfare applicants by ensuring that their parents were not buying and using drugs.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/us/politics/court-strikes-down-drug-tests-for-florida-welfare-applicants.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGIS View Post
    "The party of small government, individual freedom, and personal responsibility wants to decrease regulations on industry but increase them on the governance of you. If you fail to follow their arbitrary and overreaching rules, you deserve to die from lack of healthcare." - phrawgh
    The moral rub of course is that the people paying the taxes need to comply with vastly more onerous restrictions on their personal freedom to justify their continued existence on the payroll.

    If the law imposes a statutory duty to pay taxes to help the indigent what duty befalls the indigent?

    Isn't the Marxian quid pro quo, to each according to his need, FROM each according to his ability?

    Don't the people supplying welfare have the right to tell people receiving welfare, "You know what? It really sucks having to wake up early and all when I could otherwise stay home and snuggle with my kids, and I'd really like to help you out and all, but maybe, just maybe, just spitballin' here, maybe you shouldn't be abusing drugs."

    Its called respect.

    Trust me, I'd rather smoke pot all day long too, but if I did, I really wouldn't be able to work.
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    First of all medicaid is the cadillac of all health plans. Medicaid covers all dental and buys 6,000.00 hearing aids. They pay for elective surgeries that no other plans pay for.

    I see no problem with anyone wanting to recieve medicaid taking a blood test
    Some illegal immigrants get medicaid and using your criteria we just hand it to them no strings attached.

    If you dont work because you choose to use drugs thats your problem not everyone elses and you should NOT get medicaid. Go to an emergency room if your sick like others do

    How Undocumented Immigrants Sometimes Receive Medicaid

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/how-undocumented-immigrants-sometimes-receive-medicaid-treatment/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    First of all medicaid is the cadillac of all health plans. Medicaid covers all dental and buys 6,000.00 hearing aids. They pay for elective surgeries that no other plans pay for.

    I see no problem with anyone wanting to recieve medicaid taking a blood test
    Some illegal immigrants get medicaid and using your criteria we just hand it to them no strings attached.

    If you dont work because you choose to use drugs thats your problem not everyone elses and you should NOT get medicaid. Go to an emergency room if your sick like others do

    How Undocumented Immigrants Sometimes Receive Medicaid

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/how-undocumented-immigrants-sometimes-receive-medicaid-treatment/
    In NJ the qualifier for illegal aliens is pregnancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    First of all medicaid is the cadillac of all health plans. Medicaid covers all dental and buys 6,000.00 hearing aids. They pay for elective surgeries that no other plans pay for.

    I see no problem with anyone wanting to recieve medicaid taking a blood test
    Some illegal immigrants get medicaid and using your criteria we just hand it to them no strings attached.

    If you dont work because you choose to use drugs thats your problem not everyone elses and you should NOT get medicaid. Go to an emergency room if your sick like others do

    How Undocumented Immigrants Sometimes Receive Medicaid

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...aid-treatment/
    Medicaid provides preventive dental and $600 hearing aids here in Ohio. Where do you live?

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    I live in CAL and haven't been able to get hearing aids from Medical, which is Medicaid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGIS View Post
    "The party of small government, individual freedom, and personal responsibility wants to decrease regulations on industry but increase them on the governance of you. If you fail to follow their arbitrary and overreaching rules, you deserve to die from lack of healthcare." - phrawgh
    Perhaps they should for him too?

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    If that's the case, perhaps governors and other elected officials should have to take drug tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newpublius View Post
    In NJ the qualifier for illegal aliens is pregnancy.
    Doesnt matter illegals should NOT get medicaid or welfare or even food stamps. They are here illegally this is ridiculous.

    Medicaid costs a bundle for each individual on it
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