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    What Went Wrong For Obama?

    As I compose this missive I still maintain that I have absolutely no idea who's going to be president in 2013. It's looking as if Mitt Romney has the necessary momentum at this point and is projected to be more or less tied for vital swing state voting . . . but it could still be Barack Obama as president in 2013. We shall just have to wait and see. But clearly things have gone seriously wrong for Obama and for his presidency regardless of the eventual outcome of this election.

    Although it will probably be a decade or two in the future, eventually the Left of Center segment of this nation is going to have to face facts where their former Anointed One is concerned and acknowledge that Barack Obama really and truly was not even qualified [in meaningful political terms, that is] in background or experience to become president that early in his political career. If he wins a second term then perhaps the more seasoned and experienced man can effect a massive turn around in both attitude and competence . . . but -- again -- he was a dismal failure of a president in that first term due to simply being too green at the time for the most challenging and difficult executive office position in the history of mankind.

    Most serious political thinkers now acknowledge that half of the Democratic Party made a huge mistake in going with the liberal fad of the year political rock star called Barack Obama rather than with Hillary Clinton, a far more seasoned and proven politician -- with deep and vital political connections on both sides of the political aisle in both the House and Senate -- who'd been mentored by Bill Clinton himself to be an effective president on day one.

    Make no mistake about this . . . Obama supporters . . . Barack Obama was a liberal fad who was irrationally adored by his supporters and was over-the-top pandered to and adored by the bulk of the nation's media outlets back in not only 2008 but after becoming president; in the entirety of 2009. Here's a link in which the 2008 phenomenon of Obama-mania is set forth for you: http://townhall.com/columnists/victo...ent/page/full/

    But what happened to the Obama phenomenon between those glory days of 2008 and that historically significant and now forever famous first presidential debate of October 4, 2012 in which President Obama elected to imitate Clint Eastwood's empty chair? Reality happened in that it finally caught up with this inept and clueless poser of a president.

    All new presidents -- regardless of the extent of their political background -- undergo roughly a two year long on the job training program of necessity in their first term during which most of them gradually morph from a party faithful ideologue or hack into the legitimate chief executive of the most powerful and influential nation on Earth. It took both Reagan and Bill Clinton slightly less time than most but it still took both men over a year to genuinely become statesmen of the nation rather than just petty politicians . . . and Obama never got there at all.

    Barack Obama never did reach that sweet spot in which he consistently put the needs of his nation before his personal ideological imperatives or before petty party politics. It was even pointed out at the time that during that first year and a half of trying to ram Obama Care through the system Obama never got out of campaign bullet points speech mode and into statesman mode . . . something that even G.W. Bush managed to do in the same time span.

    Why?

    Because Obama was at least eight years of serious political seasoning and national level experiences away from being ready to become president back in 2008. That's why and that's why he still seems to be at least half crippled in necessary statesmanlike skill sets as he struggles to win a second term of office. Hopefully if he does win re-election he will finally grow into the mantle of president and commander-in-chief. Meh . . . better late than never I suppose.

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    Barack Obama and his performance came closer to meeting my expectations than I expected. He was more childish than I expected and nastier. I'll be glad to see him leave but I know he won't shut up.

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    On the night of January 20th 2009, Republican Law makers got together and made a pack, that they will NOT give President Obama ANY Wins ... period ... $#@! America ...!

    The only way they (GOP) will ever be relevant in America, was to defeat the Only Black Man that has ever defeated Republicans to become President of The United States.

    BTW, the economy is improving, despite the entire Republican Party doing everything they can to hold America back.

    It FAILED ... and Barack Obama will receive a second term and the Democrats will pick up more Senators ... !

    In other words ... $#@! You GOP and $#@! You Republican Party.

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    He did it to himself, Cedric. He had a majority in the House and Senate the first two years and squandered it on a healthcare bill we didn't want. He didn't focus on the one thing that mattered - the economy. SO, no jobs, just more regulations that inhibit business, growth, and hiring.

    He didn't need anyone working against him. He's his own worst enemy. He's a clueless socialist/Marxist in a Capitalist country. America is not a good fit for him. He doesn't belong here. I still think he's gonna lose this election, despite govt agencies playing with the numbers and the lefty media covering for him. We're not stupid.
    He's done.
    And btw, he'll never be a statesman or have any serious mettle. He's a committed ideologue, power monger, and narcissist and that's all he'll ever be.

    His supporters are angry and scared, and if the post above is any indication, the meltdowns are gonna be traumatic. Riots....lolol.
    Last edited by Trinnity; 11-02-2012 at 08:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Barack Obama and his performance came closer to meeting my expectations than I expected. He was more childish than I expected and nastier. I'll be glad to see him leave but I know he won't shut up.
    I will admit that President Obama turned out in every way precisely what I expected of him back in 2008 when I first compared him to Jimmy Carter. Shudder!

    As for shutting up . . . if he does lose this election to Mitt Romney then I sort of expect Obama to vanish after the transfer of authority. How long he will remain off the political radar is anyone's guess though. The man does have a huge ego after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    He did it to himself, Cedric. He had a majority in the House and Senate the first two years and squandered it on a healthcare bill we didn't want. He didn't focus on the one thing that mattered - the economy. SO, no jobs, just more regulations that inhibit business, growth, and hiring.

    He didn't need anyone working against him. He's his own worst enemy. He's a clueless socialist/Marxist in a Capitalist country. America is not a good fit for him. He doesn't belong here. I still think he's gonna lose this election, despite govt agencies playing with the numbers and the lefty media covering for him. We're not stupid.
    He's done.

    His supporters are angry and scared, and if the post above is any indication, the meltdowns are gonna be traumatic. Riots....lolol.
    More Republican Bull $#@! ... anyone who has the capacity of factual research knows Obama didn't have a majority in the House and Senate the first two years.

    In the 110th Congress, filibuster and cloture votes *more than DOUBLED* from the previous session. The 111th Congress increased the number to a whopping 136 motions. Things are at a standstill (and Congress has a single digit approval rating), because *Republicans* believed that if they sabotaged the government from within, people would be blind to their tactics and blame President Obama.

    Fast-forward to Spring of 2009, when Sen. Arlen Specter finally said 'this is ridiculous' and switches his allegiance to the Democratic caucus. The press hailed his move and noted that the Democrats now had a "filibuster-proof" majority (conveniently forgetting that Al Franken and Norm Coleman were still duking it out in the Land of 10,000 Lakes and Ted Kennedy was not in chambers).

    A month later, Robert Byrd is admitted to the hospital in failing health, bringing the Senate vote count to 55 Dems/2 Independents.

    By the first week in July, Minnesota's newest Senator, Al Franken, is sworn into office (with Senators Byrd and Kennedy still incapacitated by illness), bringing the current vote count to 56 seated Democrats, and 2 Independents (58).

    By the third week of July, Robert Byrd was well enough to join his colleagues (59)

    And one month later, Senator Kennedy passed away (57), and the vote count remained at 59 Dem+Ind until Paul Kirk was sworn in as Ted Kenney's replacement in September of 2009.

    So YES - the Democrats had a 60-seat majority from September 4th through February 4, 2010. That's four months, not two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    He did it to himself, Cedric. He had a majority in the House and Senate the first two years and squandered it on a healthcare bill we didn't want. He didn't focus on the one thing that mattered - the economy. SO, no jobs, just more regulations that inhibit business, growth, and hiring.

    He didn't need anyone working against him. He's his own worst enemy. He's a clueless socialist/Marxist in a Capitalist country. America is not a good fit for him. He doesn't belong here. I still think he's gonna lose this election, despite govt agencies playing with the numbers and the lefty media covering for him. We're not stupid.
    He's done.

    His supporters are angry and scared, and if the post above is any indication, the meltdowns are gonna be traumatic. Riots....lolol.
    I agree. In fact a certain leftwing political journalist nicely summed up Obama's performance during that first year and a half. I will have to paraphrase because I can't recall which wonk came up with this gem:

    "During the first year and a half of his presidency Barack Obama committed political sepuku [ritualized disemboweling of oneself] on national television and flushed away all of his political capital by ramming Obama Care down the nation's throat when he should have been focused nearly exclusively on healing the severely damaged economy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    More Republican Bull $#@! ... anyone who has the capacity of factual research knows Obama didn't have a majority in the House and Senate the first two years.

    In the 110th Congress, filibuster and cloture votes *more than DOUBLED* from the previous session. The 111th Congress increased the number to a whopping 136 motions. Things are at a standstill (and Congress has a single digit approval rating), because *Republicans* believed that if they sabotaged the government from within, people would be blind to their tactics and blame President Obama.

    Fast-forward to Spring of 2009, when Sen. Arlen Specter finally said 'this is ridiculous' and switches his allegiance to the Democratic caucus. The press hailed his move and noted that the Democrats now had a "filibuster-proof" majority (conveniently forgetting that Al Franken and Norm Coleman were still duking it out in the Land of 10,000 Lakes and Ted Kennedy was not in chambers).

    A month later, Robert Byrd is admitted to the hospital in failing health, bringing the Senate vote count to 55 Dems/2 Independents.

    By the first week in July, Minnesota's newest Senator, Al Franken, is sworn into office (with Senators Byrd and Kennedy still incapacitated by illness), bringing the current vote count to 56 seated Democrats, and 2 Independents (58).

    By the third week of July, Robert Byrd was well enough to join his colleagues (59)

    And one month later, Senator Kennedy passed away (57), and the vote count remained at 59 Dem+Ind until Paul Kirk was sworn in as Ted Kenney's replacement in September of 2009.

    So YES - the Democrats had a 60-seat majority from September 4th through February 4, 2010. That's four months, not two years.


    Yea that it ... by all means, whatever you do, please don't let the FACTS get in the way of a good Republican LIE.

    Just keep telling the Lie over and over and over again, I'm sure the stupidest among you will sooner or later, believe the Bull $#@!.

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    I see one of his main issues was believing his own hype. Invincible in his own mind, surrounded by yes men cronies he went for the "big splash", a legacy [I'm rather found of the term 'Obamacare'] instead of learning "on the job" realizing as others before him had that even with a solid majority he would need friends on both sides of the aisle to win the hearts of a nation.

    Instead he came in like a Caesar, conquering and talking about enemies. And he still didn't learn after 2010. The House majority was, is seems, not enough warning that ALL presidents, even those with huge majorities have to compromise, work with ideological opponents.

    And you are right. A seasoned politician would have put Obamacare on the table and 'sold' it over four years while working with the Republicans to fix the economy. Then, having been see he could work with others, could compromise and persuade [the greatest asset of the greatest presidents -- Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt, FDR, Reagan et alia] he then could have run on Obamacare and won in a landslide.

    "Yes we can" would have meant something.

    Even if he wins now, he will have so, so many "enemies" his road will be all uphill and more controversial, more about him and his personality than the issues.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    On the night of January 20th 2009, Republican Law makers got together and made a pack, that they will NOT give President Obama ANY Wins ... period ... $#@! America ...!

    The only way they (GOP) will ever be relevant in America, was to defeat the Only Black Man that has ever defeated Republicans to become President of The United States.

    BTW, the economy is improving, despite the entire Republican Party doing everything they can to hold America back.

    It FAILED ... and Barack Obama will receive a second term and the Democrats will pick up more Senators ... !

    In other words ... $#@! You GOP and $#@! You Republican Party.
    Cigar, you're losing it, get a grip. And the profanity, wash your mouth with soap, please!

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