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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Sure, that's true of anything.
    So, in my humble opinion, I stand by my statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I'm pretty sure there are some swastikas still flying on the state building in Germany, right? I mean, just as a reminder of their heritage....
    Germany still has concentration camps you can visit. Maybe they should get rid of those? Wouldn't want to trigger anyone.

    Either way, comparing Nazi Germany to the Confederate South is pretty ridiculous. There is a direct line between the Confederacy and the founding fathers themselves. You cannot erase one without jeopardizing the other. And since you're such a big fan of consistency, you might want to think about what it means to purge Confederate history from public view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    It would probably depend on who you ask and their background.
    Did the Confederacy attempt to exterminate the black race and systematically murder millions of innocents in the process? No? Then the comparison is not apt.
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    Didn't the Nazi's destroy all evidence of the past that they didn't agree with?
    Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes​

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The north never insisted on removing all Confederate history from public view though. That is a recent trend spearheaded largely by hyper-sensitive social justice warriors.
    Some folks apparently want to make the whole world a "safe space".

    Many Liberals think the whole thing is ridiculous and wrong-headed too, though, lest someone try to tar us all with the same brush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    It would probably depend on who you ask and their background.
    Let's remove all American symbols then. Slavery was protected for far longer than under the Confederacy complete with a Native American genocide. Nazi Germany is evil, for sure, but is it morally superior, in principle, to the British, French, Spanish, Portuguese empires? Just a body count really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    How generous of you...
    i can't disagree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Did the Confederacy attempt to exterminate the black race and systematically murder millions of innocents in the process? No? Then the comparison is not apt.
    Indeed, and the issue simply fails to appreciate the necessary post-war reconciliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Germany still has concentration camps you can visit. Maybe they should get rid of those? Wouldn't want to trigger anyone.

    Either way, comparing Nazi Germany to the Confederate South is pretty ridiculous. There is a direct line between the Confederacy and the founding fathers themselves. You cannot erase one without jeopardizing the other. And since you're such a big fan of consistency, you might want to think about what it means to purge Confederate history from public view.
    And the US still has museums you can visit. How many WWII reenactments have the Germans participated in to make sure their heritage is never forgotten?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Did the Confederacy attempt to exterminate the black race and systematically murder millions of innocents in the process? No? Then the comparison is not apt.
    We don't have an accurate number of how many blacks were killed here or on the trip over here, do we? While the comparasion may not be apt to you and several others, it is to me. I'm not trying to change your mind, so I would appreciate it if you would not try to change mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newpublius View Post
    Let's remove all American symbols then. Slavery was protected for far longer than under the Confederacy complete with a Native American genocide. Nazi Germany is evil, for sure, but is it morally superior, in principle, to the British, French, Spanish, Portuguese empires? Just a body count really.
    Ok.

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