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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    No, Mister. I don't take any faith. Why you try to make to believe that Christianity is so great that we have everything thanks to then when is obviously a lie. Many previous civilizations defended similar things.

    Yes, even Hitler had some good side. It does not remove the fact that he was a cancer.

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    I didn't any anything about Christianity being great. I said it is the bedrock of your worldview. And, no, many "previous civilizations" did nothing of the kind. There is a reason Christianity has been referred to as the "Bolshevism of Antiquity".

    Hitler? Really? I think that tells us all we need to know about your capacity for rational discussion in this case. Good day, sir.
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    Since democracy has come up I will make the following observation: moderns project their values on the past and call the democracies of the ancient and Medieval worlds imperfect. They were steps in the right direction but they didn't go far enough and had too many flaws. On the contrary, maybe the people who coined the term had a better idea of what democracy is than we do. Maybe we're just practicing something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Since democracy has come up I will make the following observation: moderns project their values on the past and call the democracies of the ancient and Medieval worlds imperfect. They were steps in the right direction but they didn't go far enough and had too many flaws. On the contrary, maybe the people who coined the term had a better idea of what democracy is than we do. Maybe we're just practicing something else.
    The idea that not everyone is a good candidate for the vote does have appeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The idea that not everyone is a good candidate for the vote does have appeal.
    Agreed. Moreover, the term demos has ethnic and cultural dimensions missing from modern usage. One was born a citizen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    1. The very fact that you call these ideas "good" and "enlightened" only demonstrates that they are taken for granted and thus not up for debate.

    2. 17th and 18th Century Europeans had one, largely Christian, well to drink from. They drank deeply from it. Had they not your own worldview would not exist.

    It continues to amaze me how secularists try to relegate 1800 years of Christianity to an intellectual, philosophical and cultural footnote.
    And how fanatics of Christianity try to give to it more importance than it really has.

    I don't take anything for granted by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I didn't any anything about Christianity being great. I said it is the bedrock of your worldview. And, no, many "previous civilizations" did nothing of the kind. There is a reason Christianity has been referred to as the "Bolshevism of Antiquity".

    Hitler? Really? I think that tells us all we need to know about your capacity for rational discussion in this case. Good day, sir.
    That something has some good point it does not make that all of it is valid. It has good things, I won't deny that. But your intention to give much more credit to Christianity than it deserves it is what makes me to adopt the hardest position.

    In this forum due to the extremist opinions of the people I have never been able to take my most conciliatory position and to take to closer opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starman View Post
    There are a plethora of places where you can verify these numbers, if you care to do so.
    Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered
    Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered
    Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered
    Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered
    Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered
    Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered
    Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered
    Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered
    Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered
    Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

    Source:
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publicc...less-goodness/

    And please, no comments that Hitler was a Christian, or atheism had "nothing to do with all the murders."

    Bread eaters have murdered even more.

    And I can guarantee that every murder, mass or otherwise, ever committed was by a water drinker.

    Your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    And how fanatics of Christianity try to give to it more importance than it really has.
    You are a fanatic of self-agrandizement. You think yourself the most brilliant being in the universe, and deeply resent God telling YOU what to do. Of course YOU could have created a much better universe, and human body, than God did.
    "The history of government management of money has, except for a few short happy periods, been one of incessant fraud and deception." -- economist Fredrich August von Hayek (1899-1992)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starman View Post
    You are a fanatic of self-agrandizement. You think yourself the most brilliant being in the universe, and deeply resent God telling YOU what to do. Of course YOU could have created a much better universe, and human body, than God did.
    #FridayFanaticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starman View Post
    You are a fanatic of self-agrandizement. You think yourself the most brilliant being in the universe, and deeply resent God telling YOU what to do. Of course YOU could have created a much better universe, and human body, than God did.
    I love you 😃

    I don't think of myself being the most brilliant. And I don't resent God because I don't believe it is not anything else than a human creation. God is a fiction like Zeus, Thor or Harry Potter 😃

    I cannot have any resentment for a fantasy.

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