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"For all sad words of tongue and pen, The saddest are these, 'It might have been'." John Greenleaf Whittier
"Our minds control our bodies. Our bodies control our enemies. Our enemies control jack shit by the time we're done with them." Stick
Green Arrow (04-13-2017)
"For all sad words of tongue and pen, The saddest are these, 'It might have been'." John Greenleaf Whittier
"Our minds control our bodies. Our bodies control our enemies. Our enemies control jack shit by the time we're done with them." Stick
Green Arrow (04-13-2017)
He's at least 12.
This is the stupidest story line ever. Cap's greatest enemy was Hydra. He was co-created created by Jack Kirby -- a Jew.
First they make Stark a drunken $#@!, then they make Hal Jordan a bad guy, then they make Supes a tyrant (Injustice). I know these are not all in the same timeline but it's still disturbing. For some reason, making Cap a Nazi irks me the most. He was given the super-soldier serum because he was an incorruptible person.
Last edited by decedent; 04-13-2017 at 11:49 AM.
I have a big cook.
Green Arrow (04-13-2017),Hal Jordan (04-13-2017)
I will say I'm far older than that.
My defense of the Cap storyline is that there is logic behind it. Now, that said, it should irk us all more than the others. It goes against everything the character was created for and stands for.This is the stupidest story line ever. Cap's greatest enemy was Hydra. He was co-created created by Jack Kirby -- a Jew.
First they make Start a drunken $#@!, then they make Hal Jordan a bad guy, then they make Supes a tyrant (Injustice). I know these are not all in the same timeline but it's still disturbing. For some reason, making Capa a Nazi irks me the most. He was given the super-soldier serum because he was an incorruptible person.
Regarding Stark becoming an alcoholic, that was really natural progression and led to a powerful story. He always enjoyed his drink, and using the suit drunk was an inevitability. Hal is probably the most troublesome of the examples you cited (yes, he was under the influence of the avatar of fear, but that's not the strongest excuse). As for the Superman example, that's more of an Elseworlds story, and I've found what I've read of Injustice to be a very interesting story. As an Elseworlds story, it hasn't changed the core Superman any more than USSR Superman did.
"For all sad words of tongue and pen, The saddest are these, 'It might have been'." John Greenleaf Whittier
"Our minds control our bodies. Our bodies control our enemies. Our enemies control jack shit by the time we're done with them." Stick
Green Arrow (04-13-2017)
I think one of the funniest things Marvel has done recently involves Nick Fury. Nick Fury used to be a White guy. (David Hasselhoff played him in a movie, for crying out loud...and, surprisingly, actually didn't do too bad a job.) Then along came the Ultimate Universe, and in that universe Nick Fury was a Black guy who looked like Samuel L. Jackson. (At one point in the comic, someone asks Fury who he'd want to play him in a movie and he says, "Samuel L. Jackson, of course".) Years later, that happened. Then, when the Ultimate Universe - I think - somehow got "blended into" the mainstream Marvel comic universe, they adopted the Black version and explained that he was actually Nick Fury Junior - the illegitimate son of the White Nick Fury. Just wow.
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Green Arrow (04-13-2017)
Hal Jordan (04-13-2017)
Actually, Nick Fury Junior showed up in the main Marvel Universe (616) before the end of the Ultimate Universe. Parts of the Ultimate Universe got brought over, but Ultimate Nick Fury ended with it. It was obvious with Junior that they just wanted to match the face to the Cinematic Universe version.
"For all sad words of tongue and pen, The saddest are these, 'It might have been'." John Greenleaf Whittier
"Our minds control our bodies. Our bodies control our enemies. Our enemies control jack shit by the time we're done with them." Stick
Green Arrow (04-13-2017)
Injustice is the best series I've ever read. Better than Civil Wars, the Phoenix Saga... you name it.
The thing about making Superman, Hal, Robin, et al, bad guys is that they weren't necessarily supposed to be good in the first place. Steve Rogers was selected because he was good. This is why him becoming a traitor makes no sense. Doing this stunt in the middle of the MCU series is even more dumb -- seeing Nazi Cap in the comics while seeing Good Cap on film.
I have a big cook.
Green Arrow (04-13-2017),Hal Jordan (04-13-2017)
He now has a "super flare." I don't know or care what that is. I own thousands of comic books and maybe 4 of them are Superman.
Too powerful = too boring. That's what I like about mutants: one simple power that manifests itself at puberty. When they work in teams, their individual powers make the group that much stronger -- like when Colossus throws Wolverine, making him a razor-sharp cannonball.
Fastball special:
I have a big cook.
Green Arrow (04-13-2017),Hal Jordan (04-13-2017)
"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
Hal Jordan (04-13-2017)