Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Peter1469 (11-03-2012)
know what? i'm gonna have to agree with you on this. For some reason i started thinking POLITICAL CORRECTNEsS which it all is of course, but i think i am going to have to agree with you on the multicultural origin as far as US is concerned. And even the definition of multi-culturalism in this country is not what it was originally intended.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
And that is why, I believe, multiculturalism is not and cannot work in the US.
It works here. I live in the most diverse city in the world, the fact that blacks are one of the smallest minorities notwithstanding. Whites, or Europeans are the largest single group, but are not predominate, Here, in Vancouver, where federal law dictates English and French are the 'official' languages of the nation, English is the most spoken language at home, Punjabi second, and the combination of the Chinese dialects [Mandarin and Cantonese leading] are third, Tagalog, the language of the Philippines next, Hindi and Spanish tied for sixth and French seventh.
And there in lies part of the problem. The attempt to legislate culture has failed. The attempt by governments either directly or passively has been resisted, English speakers of all colors saw bilingualism as having something rammed down their throats -- to this day there is frustration and sometimes anger at mandatory packaging on French and English packaging and many, many complaints where the same announcements have to be repeated in both languages.
I believe multiculturalism has worked here because it had to. The Chinese came north from California for the northern gold rush and to build Canada's continental railroad. Indians came here to escape poverty and to take jobs others would not, Ukranians settled the prairies because they could grow grain like they never could before. And we had no police, [The NWRCP was a tiny force] virtually no government [Britain had abandoned the Northwest Territories long before the Civil war in the states and we had to get along.
Europeans dominated, but learned a bit about other cultures and the Eastern cultures assimilated.
Since 911, yes, there has been a problem with some middle east cultures, Muslims complain that women must remove their veils or Burkas to vote or when asked to by a police officer for legal reasons, but it isn't going to change anytime soon.
There is a slight under current of racist thinking sometimes...but it is mild, an irritation and rarely erupts to anything serious; a complaint about the turban worn by the guy in front of you at a hockey game, who usually changes seats with his wife when asked. y
But I agree....
Nothing gets the established communities here more incensed is when new immigrants try to bring their laws, petty squabbles and religious conflicts here to this land. And that push back comes from all cultures. The largest and most vehement push back against Sharia law came not from white Europeans, but Asians and Indians who proclaimed in general terms "we came here BECAUSE of Canada's laws. We don't want YOUR laws."
The mention of wanting to try it in Ontario cost the then Premier his job, his career and his party their future.
Canada is by nature vaguely defined but as the beer ads so clearly defined [and how Canadian to have a Beer company define us] "We are Canadian!" Even though no one seems to know exactly what that means.
Will that work in the US? Not any time soon, especially after four years of that hardening of the black/white attitudes we've seen under the current administration. No. Sad, but from this listening post it sounds like all sides have become more intolerant not less.
Last edited by Deadwood; 11-03-2012 at 10:11 AM.
Kizzume (11-03-2012),oceanloverOH (11-03-2012)
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
What an interesting subject and a great thread....thanks for posting, Kizz.
I must say that Kizz is a valuable contributor.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist