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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    The melting pot means you melt too NOT just " those icky foreigners".



    You dont know what built this country.


    you dont know much
    I'm glad you said this. I've added a couple lines to the script (there are a couple other mods I made, but they're really small): "We DO absorb things from other cultures that come here—words and phrases, food, music, but it’s not the same as having different and completely separate cultures potentially clashing with each other. Eventually things rub off on us, it’s natural, and that’s part of the whole melting pot philosophy."
    Sorry--but I do not accept the idea that being intolerant of intolerance is THE SAME THING as being intolerant of anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    I'm not for making anyone do anything, but I would always encourage people to learn about other cultures.

    Luckily Americans are net exporters of culture, so to a certain extent first generation immigrants are probably already exposed to us.

    Which pop band do you think you have that could lamely try to support that belief ?
    I suspect that the outside intelligentsia would argue that US culture is almost non existent presently and that all of its past popular culture is now beginning to look like what it actually was from the start --- not very good .
    I would be interested to know where one might view recent American culture and how you are net exporter of something which barely exists from the consensus view point .

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyo View Post
    Wow, you're karma sucks.
    It's "your", and why would you say that my karma sucks? Because I'm honest about how I feel?
    Sorry--but I do not accept the idea that being intolerant of intolerance is THE SAME THING as being intolerant of anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carygrant View Post
    Which pop band do you think you have that could lamely try to support that belief ?
    I suspect that the outside intelligentsia would argue that US culture is almost non existent presently and that all of its past popular culture is now beginning to look like what it actually was from the start --- not very good .
    I would be interested to know where one might view recent American culture and how you are net exporter of something which barely exists from the consensus view point .
    If you don't think we're net exporters of culture, it's because we coca-colonized your island a long time ago.

    When I visited Japan, I went to a lot of record stores and music shops, hoping to pick up a few physical copies of some of the great Japanese bands I've heard via the web-- The Pillows, Ningen Isu, Yuzu, Ogre You Asshole, World's End Girlfriend-- stuff like that. To my dismay, the record stores were crammed with the same crappy rock bands and pop flavors of the month we have around here. The speakers blared Lady Gaga and Nelly. I found the Japanese bands I was looking for- stuffed away in a corner.

    I'm not saying that my Japanese experience is concrete evidence that we're net exporters of culture in America. But ever since Europe was devastated in the two World Wars, America has been more than happy to throw it's weight around exporting our ideas as well as our culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    If you don't think we're net exporters of culture, it's because we coca-colonized your island a long time ago.
    Ouch!
    I've tried to explain to Cary several times that his island is a US vassal and a colony at least in cultural terms. That's why I find his anti-Americanism so silly . He parrots the ideals of an American world order.
    Last edited by Mister D; 11-03-2012 at 08:57 PM.
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    Well, here's a revised version of the script (I'm glad I was able to make a number of changes to it after getting so much input about it between here and PB, I really hope I have the balls and conviction to actually make the video--this could potentially be the most controversial video I will have made):

    Last year sometime I made a video about multiculturalism that I regret. At that time I still supported multiculturalismónow I just support the melting pot. I said really stupid things in that video, mainly my lame argument that since I enjoy a lot of things that come from other cultures, I must be enjoying the benefits of multiculturalism.

    Well, that was a really lame argument. One doesnít need to live in a multicultural society to enjoy things that originally come from other cultures. I donít have to know anything at all about Chinese culture to enjoy Chinese food. Iím left-handed; I shouldnít feel guilty for using my left hand to eat food at a Middle-Eastern restaurant.

    Maybe that sounds selfish because it IS somewhat selfish, but thatís part of human nature. We learn about our own culture first and foremost. As long as weíre not going out of our way to offend people, it shouldnít matter.

    We DO absorb things from other cultures that come hereówords and phrases, food, music, but itís not the same as having different and completely separate segregated cultures potentially clashing with each other. Eventually things rub off on us, itís natural, and thatís part of the whole melting pot philosophy. This is a good thing. Weíre always expanding our own culture here to include things from other cultures. Thereís a homogenization process that happens.

    People who come to LIVE here should try to assimilate into our culture. They should learn about our culture and do their best to fit in. I think most immigrants DO try to assimilate into our culture, but the percentage of those who donít is big enough to be a concern.

    It shouldnít be where they get to keep their culture fully intact WITHOUT having to learn about ours where itís somehow ALL on OUR shoulders to learn about their culture if weíre to get along. That element of multiculturalism creates more classes of people, it separates people, it segregates people. I mean, donít get me wrong, I donít think itís a BAD thing to learn about other cultures, I like learning about other cultures and I wish more people would learn more about other cultures, but it shouldnít be a requirement unless YOU are the outsider, unless YOU are the one in a foreign country.

    Some countries are shitholes as far as Iím concerned; propping up cultures from shithole countries just doesnít seem smart to me, and thatís kind of what multiculturalism doesóit props up ALL cultures as being of equal value, and theyíre CLEARLY not all of equal value. Some cultures are downright barbaric--and if people from those cultures donít want to integrate, quite frankly I hope they feel very unwelcome here. We have high standards here, we have a good quality of life and freedoms to be proud of and we shouldnít set those standards of freedom lower to accommodate cultures from shithole countries. We should not change our laws to accommodate cultures that do not share our most basic human values.

    If you want the values from the country you came from and donít want to learn ours, just stay in your own country, donít come here unless youíre just visiting. If you live here and you want values that other countries have, move to one of those countries.

    Iím glad that I live somewhere that I mostly have freedom of speech. Europe seems to be clamping down on that more and more and Iím really glad Iím not there. Itís not that I want to say terrible things, I donít, but Iíd like the FREEDOM to be able to.

    Racist speech can land you in jail in parts of Europe, merely offending people can result in fines, I donít doubt for a moment that blasphemy will eventually be something you can get arrested for, particularly with all the Muslims pouring into European countries who get mortally offended if you merely mention Islam without praising it. But I digress.

    Iím FOR a melting pot, Iím against multiculturalism.
    Sorry--but I do not accept the idea that being intolerant of intolerance is THE SAME THING as being intolerant of anything else.

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    It's "your", and why would you say that my karma sucks? Because I'm honest about how I feel?
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    Muslims pouring into European countries who get mortally offended if you merely mention Islam without praising it
    They are going to have to get over it here in the US. No one is required to praise Jesus in the US or any other religion. Maybe they should stay in Europe where the red carpet is laid down for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carygrant View Post
    Which pop band do you think you have that could lamely try to support that belief ?
    I suspect that the outside intelligentsia would argue that US culture is almost non existent presently and that all of its past popular culture is now beginning to look like what it actually was from the start --- not very good .
    I would be interested to know where one might view recent American culture and how you are net exporter of something which barely exists from the consensus view point .

    Presently?

    As in future perfect tense? You did know that right? You weren't making the grade schooler's mistake of thinking 'presently' is the same as 'at present'?

    So, you are asking what culture the US [not American you moron 'cause that includes Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Chile et alia as it's all America stoopid] is ABOUT to export.

    With that "superior intellect" you keep claiming I thought you would be able to predict that, but since you couldn't get past grade school grammar or fucking geography I guess we can....


    .................FLUSH................


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