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Thread: Does believing that 'Reverse Discrimination' is Wrong mean you're a racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I have yet to see anyone here say they want equal outcomes, only equal opportunities. You know of some that have?
    I just said it is a Marxist construct, so that would mean Marxists (and their ideological ilk) subscribe to that belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    That's a pretty arrogant statement to make, isn't it?
    You misspelled accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    My point is that Irish and Scottish people were treated much worse than chattel slaves in many instances. It's all there in the history books if you care to read it.
    I have, which is why I'm able to discuss why your attempt to find equivalency is in err.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    That's a pretty arrogant statement to make, isn't it?
    No, it's a factual statement based on history. Scores of slaves would die in transit to the Americas and the conditions aboard the ships were generally horrific. Once they arrived in the American south, their chances for survival and even some measure of contentment increased markedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I have yet to see anyone here say they want equal outcomes, only equal opportunities. You know of some that have?
    Equal opportunity is a lie. It always will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I just said it is a Marxist construct, so that would mean Marxists (and their ideological ilk) subscribe to that belief.
    Ok, yet I have not heard anyone here advocate for equal outcomes. Wouldn't that be an important step to address?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I have, which is why I'm able to discuss why your attempt to find equivalency is in err.
    I'm not talking about JUST those institutions you referred to, I'm talking about the general treatment that Irish and Scottish people received over many centuries. Starved, murdered, tortured, raped, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No, it's a factual statement based on history. Scores of slaves would die in transit to the Americas and the conditions aboard the ships were generally horrific. Once they arrived in the American south, their chances for survival and even some measure of contentment increased markedly.
    That's true of North American slavery. Slavery in the sugar growing regions of the Caribbean was tantamount to a death sentence. People think you're apologizing for the institution when you point out highly significant differences in practice but whatevs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No, it's a factual statement based on history. Scores of slaves would die in transit to the Americas and the conditions aboard the ships were generally horrific. Once they arrived in the American south, their chances for survival and even some measure of contentment increased markedly.
    The number may be factual, but you are quantifying how better or worse it was for the slave. That is your subjective opinion that can't be backed up by facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Equal opportunity is a lie. It always will be.
    Kool, thanks for sharing.

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