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Thread: Does believing that 'Reverse Discrimination' is Wrong mean you're a racist?

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    What's wrong is government mandated impartiality...for some and not for others. It violates the equal protection guarantee in the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Their really isn't much of a good reason for AA to exist based on race or gender. If privilege is the issue, it should be among socioeconomic lines, if at all.
    Bingo. I remember a young man suing to get into Berkeley because he was black and being discriminated against. His father and grandfather were lawyers and multimillionaires but he needed AA to get along. On the other hand, the kids of the poor coal miners whose industry was destroyed by the Democrats can go suck swamp water. They won't get any help.

    I have always supported helping everyone bright enough to go to college who legitimately couldn't afford to go to college. But, helping based solely on race, gender, gender preference is wrong.
    Last edited by patrickt; 04-15-2017 at 08:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Bingo. I remember a young man suing to get into Berkeley because he was black and being discriminated against. His father and grandfather were lawyers and multimillionaires but he needed AA to get along. On the other hand, the kids of the poor coal miners whose industry was destroyed by the Democrats can go suck swamp water. They won't get any help.

    I have always supported helping everyone bright enough to go to college who legitimately couldn't afford to go to college. But, helping bases solely on race, gender, gender preference is wrong.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Not every white Christian is born with money and status.
    You're right, but statistically they have better opportunities, more representation in government and the criminal justice system and so forth. Whereas if you are a black male, you have like a one in three chance of serving prison time at some point and have very little representation in the government and criminal justice system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    You're right, but statistically they have better opportunities, more representation in government and the criminal justice system and so forth. Whereas if you are a black male, you have like a one in three chance of serving prison time at some point and have very little representation in the government and criminal justice system.
    Statistically, my white ass landed In prison for 4 years at age 17. I served 3 years and 8 months of sais sentence.

    The fact that blacks tend to commit more crime may also b e a factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    You're right, but statistically they have better opportunities, more representation in government and the criminal justice system and so forth. Whereas if you are a black male, you have like a one in three chance of serving prison time at some point and have very little representation in the government and criminal justice system.
    Well if you ask "why" and discuss cultural implications you're a racist. The only way out of this discussion is white guilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    You're right, but statistically they have better opportunities, more representation in government and the criminal justice system and so forth. Whereas if you are a black male, you have like a one in three chance of serving prison time at some point and have very little representation in the government and criminal justice system.
    Statistically, the percentage of full-time, sworn police officers who are Black, in American cities of more than 100,000 people, is a bit over 16%. Despite the fact that only 4-5% of attorneys are Black, and an even smaller percentage have at least ten years of qualifying legal experience, they hold about 12% of federal judgeships. The percentage of state and county trial court judges may be slightly smaller...however study after study demonstrates that Black judges are harsher in their sentencing of both Black and White defendants than their White counterparts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Well if you ask "why" and discuss cultural implications you're a racist.
    True, if you are White. If you're Black and Conservative and say it, you're a self-hating Uncle Tom. If you're Black and not Conservative, you can usually cite things like "thug culture", absentee fathers and the Welfare State without too much condemnation from liberals and Black activists, as long as you're careful in your choice of words and suggest that, ultimately, all those things are somehow the fault of White people.
    "It is a foolish man who believes that he possesses all of the answers until he is absolutely certain that he has heard all of the questions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    True, if you are White. If you're Black and Conservative and say it, you're a self-hating Uncle Tom. If you're Black and not Conservative, you can usually cite things like "thug culture", absentee fathers and the Welfare State without too much condemnation from liberals and Black activists, as long as you're careful in your choice of words and suggest that, ultimately, all those things are somehow the fault of White people.
    Careful, your spitting out some powerful truths that might burn up some circuit boards!
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    Reverse Discrimination is one of the dumbest labels I've heard. If a black guy is discriminated against for being black, that's discrimination. If a white guy is discriminated against for being white, that's not reverse discrimination. That's just plain old discrimination. If you're white, and you encounter reverse discrimination, then you've just gotten preferential treatment. Because the reverse of being discriminated against, is being discriminated for.
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