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    Quote Originally Posted by decedent View Post
    He's an idiot who thinks "the left" doesn't know that he released the returns himself, but only the good parts that show he payed something.


    He needs to man up and fulfill his promise to release his tax returns.
    So, Trump fooled Maddow into embarrassing herself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Are you the IRS or my accountant? Am I running for public office of any sort?
    I do books. That's close enough. Right?

    You've somehow latched on to the idea that public officials should be beholden to the public in general when it comes to showing their income tax returns.

    The interesting thing about this is that discussing salary in many jobs is cause for dismissal. The reason? It's private. It doesn't matter if some folks choose to show their income tax statements to the world, it's not a requirement, and for most people, it's a private affair.

    I thought it was ridiculous when the birthers were calling for Obama's birth certificate, in light of the fact that a birth announcement appeared saying he was born in Hawaii. But, and this is a big BUT, at least birth in the nation is a requirement for the presidency. The birther movement was still ridiculous.

    The taxer movement is doubly ridiculous because there is absolutely no financial requirement linked to the provisions for becoming president -- or, for holding any public office.

    It makes you (and all those who participate) look silly and small -- even worse than the birthers looked.

    But, if you, and all the others, are comfortable wearing that hat -- more power to you. We've all seen how reluctant you are to release your taxes here on the forum. I wouldn't do it either. Somehow, I don't think that lesson has gotten through to you, though. I think I've wasted my time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    I do books. That's close enough. Right?

    You've somehow latched on to the idea that public officials should be beholden to the public in general when it comes to showing their income tax returns.

    The interesting thing about this is that discussing salary in many jobs is cause for dismissal. The reason? It's private. It doesn't matter if some folks choose to show their income tax statements to the world, it's not a requirement, and for most people, it's a private affair.

    I thought it was ridiculous when the birthers were calling for Obama's birth certificate, in light of the fact that a birth announcement appeared saying he was born in Hawaii. But, and this is a big BUT, at least birth in the nation is a requirement for the presidency. The birther movement was still ridiculous.

    The taxer movement is doubly ridiculous because there is absolutely no financial requirement linked to the provisions for becoming president -- or, for holding any public office.

    It makes you (and all those who participate) look silly and small -- even worse than the birthers looked.

    But, if you, and all the others, are comfortable wearing that hat -- more power to you. We've all seen how reluctant you are to release your taxes here on the forum. I wouldn't do it either. Somehow, I don't think that lesson has gotten through to you, though. I think I've wasted my time.
    You know your head would have exploded had Clinton or President Obama tried to pull this stunt.
    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    You know your head would have exploded had Clinton or President Obama tried to pull this stunt.
    Not at all.

    Just as I opposed the birtherism around Obama, so would I have opposed attacking him (or anyone) over not releasing his taxes. There is no requirement for him to do so -- or, for Trump to do so.

    There are many ways to find out if someone financial entanglements -- looking at their income tax returns is not one of them.

    The hard Left has really outdone themselves with this taxerism thing.

    If you REALLY want to see a politician's tax returns, lobby to make it a law. Until then, you have nothing. But, I sincerely doubt you could ever get a law to pass concerning the release of tax returns because a person's income is a private matter. You understand that, which is why you have repeatedly refused to post your tax returns here.

    In my opinion, if someone is going to demand something of someone else -- they better be ready to step up to the plate, themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Not at all.

    Just as I opposed the birtherism around Obama, so would I have opposed attacking him (or anyone) over not releasing his taxes. There is no requirement for him to do so -- or, for Trump to do so.

    There are many ways to find out if someone financial entanglements -- looking at their income tax returns is not one of them.

    The hard Left has really outdone themselves with this taxerism thing.

    If you REALLY want to see a politician's tax returns, lobby to make it a law. Until then, you have nothing. But, I sincerely doubt you could ever get a law to pass concerning the release of tax returns because a person's income is a private matter. You understand that, which is why you have repeatedly refused to post your tax returns here.

    In my opinion, if someone is going to demand something of someone else -- they better be ready to step up to the plate, themselves.
    You are generally a very polite poster so I'm going to try to say this nicely, but I don't believe you. Every single conservative here would have had a massive, foaming, collective, fit if President Obama refused to release his taxes.
    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Tax returns are not public records. That is sufficient explanation.
    Neither is a birth certificate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Neither is a birth certificate.
    That's different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Not at all.

    Just as I opposed the birtherism around Obama, so would I have opposed attacking him (or anyone) over not releasing his taxes. There is no requirement for him to do so -- or, for Trump to do so.

    There are many ways to find out if someone financial entanglements -- looking at their income tax returns is not one of them.

    The hard Left has really outdone themselves with this taxerism thing.

    If you REALLY want to see a politician's tax returns, lobby to make it a law. Until then, you have nothing. But, I sincerely doubt you could ever get a law to pass concerning the release of tax returns because a person's income is a private matter. You understand that, which is why you have repeatedly refused to post your tax returns here.

    In my opinion, if someone is going to demand something of someone else -- they better be ready to step up to the plate, themselves.
    So, you don't agree with this statement.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    A candidate for public office has no right to privacy. Every aspect of his or her life should be available for examination by the voters.

    If Trump is in fact being audited by the IRS, he should not be required to release them until the IRS completes the audit and closes the investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    So, you don't agree with this statement.....
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