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    tRump admin loses the Carl Vinson, fumbles foreign policy.

    How Did the Trump Administration Lose an Aircraft Carrier?

    On April 9, as tension between the U.S. and North Korea over missile tests rose, the U.S. announced it was dispatching the USS Carl Vinson, an aircraft carrier, and its retinue, toward the Korean peninsula. “U.S. Pacific Command ordered the Carl Vinson Strike Group north as a prudent measure to maintain readiness and presence in the Western Pacific,” a Navy spokesman said at the time.There was one flaw in the plan, as The New York Times reports:The problem was, the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the four other warships in its strike force were at that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula.
    Amateur hour as usual at the white house.

    Read the rest at the link. Fascinating stuff. contradictory foreign policy statements from different offices, bungled communications, better than the keystone cops.

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    This thread looks lonely - wonder why?

    Maybe Drumpf should start taking his intelligence briefings ...

    LoL

    Trump is content to call audibles with aircraft carriers. That’s a risky strategy in the best of times, but it’s even more dangerous when the quarterback tends to fumble the snap and his offensive line isn’t working from the same playbook.

    At present, Donald couldn't keep track of a toy ship in the bathtub - such ineptitude makes ya feel all warm & fuzzy inside!
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    LMAO.....it never lost the Vinson. It left Singapore on the 5th headed towards Australia. Then on the 9th it turned around to head towards the Korean Peninsula.



    Naturally the LAME STREAM Media doesn't understand and cannot comprehend all that entails in turning a Carrier Strike Group around. Especially one that is scheduled to be involved with exercises down around Australia.


    Moreover the Atlantic and its Lib Tard wannabe Reporters. Then start talking about what if a Hot War jumped off. But then didn't have the brain capacity to figure out the Bombers in Guam and the 18 Wing out of Japan. Was already prepped and ready to go.


    Truly the leftness of Lame Stream Media proves what magnificent dipshits they were created as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    How Did the Trump Administration Lose an Aircraft Carrier?
    On April 9, as tension between the U.S. and North Korea over missile tests rose, the U.S. announced it was dispatching the USS Carl Vinson, an aircraft carrier, and its retinue, toward the Korean peninsula. “U.S. Pacific Command ordered the Carl Vinson Strike Group north as a prudent measure to maintain readiness and presence in the Western Pacific,”
    Amateur hour as usual at the white house.
    Read the rest at the link. Fascinating stuff. contradictory foreign policy statements from different offices, bungled communications, better than the keystone cops.

    So what makes you think they lost it? It was announced that we were dispatching the group, what you posted says that they were ordered to go, Yes they were headed the other direction at the time but they can change course, and it seems they did. They did not arrive overnight, they do not move that fast. If I were POTUS, I would have said something similar like, "we are sending a carrier battle group to the area" I would not have been any more specific, it would be stupid to do so and not be good OPSEC. What did you expect? "we are dispatching a Carrier Battle Group that is currently headed south in the Indian Ocean, it will take a few days to a week to arrive, it should arrive on station at about 1pm local time on Thursday?"
    NK does not have a blue water Navy, they have limited surveillance abilities in the ocean, they will not know when it gets there why give them any idea, let them think it is any minute or that they are there already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    LMAO.....it never lost the Vinson. It left Singapore on the 5th headed towards Australia. Then on the 9th it turned around to head towards the Korean Peninsula.



    Naturally the LAME STREAM Media doesn't understand and cannot comprehend all that entails in turning a Carrier Strike Group around. Especially one that is scheduled to be involved with exercises down around Australia.


    Moreover the Atlantic and its Lib Tard wannabe Reporters. Then start talking about what if a Hot War jumped off. But then didn't have the brain capacity to figure out the Bombers in Guam and the 18 Wing out of Japan. Was already prepped and ready to go.


    Truly the leftness of Lame Stream Media proves what magnificent dipshits they were created as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-4 View Post
    Hereby replacing Spicey and Kellyanne with MMC as Official Trump Turd Polisher


    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...arrier/523458/
    Nah, you don't want to do that as then I would be treating the leftness like Slugs. Noting how they always leave slime in their tracks.


    Donald Trump declared 11 April 2017 that "North Korea is looking for trouble" with its nuclear weapons development program and urged China to rein in Pyongyang. Trump, in a pair of Twits, said, "If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them!" The threat of force against North Korea has gained new credibility following U.S. airstrikes against Syria for using chemical weapons on its own people. US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the military strike against Syria was a warning to other countries, including North Korea, that "a response is likely" if they pose a danger.


    The distance from the Port of Singapore, Singapore to the Port of Busan (Pusan), in South Korea is 3,200 nautical miles. Assuming the Vinson strikegroup made best available speed, of about 30 knots, the sailing time would be about 4.5 days. With Vinson departing Singapore on 08 April 2017, the strike group would arrive in Korean waters 12-13 April 2017. April 15 is the anniversary of the birth of Kim Il Sung, North Korea's founder. And new launches of North Korean ballistic missiles, and possibly another nuclear test, are unlikely to be kept waiting.


    The US Navy sent the strike group toward the Korean Peninsula to bolster the US presence and send a message to North Korea. "Third Fleet ships operate forward with a purpose: to safeguard U.S. interests in the Western Pacific," Commander Dave Benham, director of media operations for the U.S. Pacific Command Third Fleet said 08 April 2017. “US Pacific Command ordered the Carl Vinson Strike Group north as a prudent measure to maintain readiness and presence in the Western Pacific,” Commander Dave Benham, spokesman at US Pacific Command, said. “The number one threat in the region continues to be North Korea, due to its reckless, irresponsible and destabilizing program of missile tests and pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability,” he added.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    So what makes you think they lost it? It was announced that we were dispatching the group, what you posted says that they were ordered to go, Yes they were headed the other direction at the time but they can change course, and it seems they did. They did not arrive overnight, they do not move that fast. If I were POTUS, I would have said something similar like, "we are sending a carrier battle group to the area" I would not have been any more specific, it would be stupid to do so and not be good OPSEC. What did you expect? "we are dispatching a Carrier Battle Group that is currently headed south in the Indian Ocean, it will take a few days to a week to arrive, it should arrive on station at about 1pm local time on Thursday?"
    NK does not have a blue water Navy, they have limited surveillance abilities in the ocean, they will not know when it gets there why give them any idea, let them think it is any minute or that they are there already.
    Only the leftness and their illiberals tells the enemy the specifics. Now you know why they are doomed if they start a civil war.
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    I wonder why the LAMESTREAM MEDIA didn't mention LDH8 showing up within the Korean Peninsula. No word about the USS Makin coming over from the ME.


    Do you think those Lib Tard reporters from the Leftness......needs it explained out, as to what an Amphibious Ready Group is?


    Better show them pictures so they aren't more confused than their Natural State.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nah, you don't want to do that as then I would be treating the leftness like Slugs. Noting how they always leave slime in their tracks.
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    Are you OK? You seem to have gone bat $#@! crazy. Did the election do that to you?
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