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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    There's a difference between Medicare and Medicaid that you might not understand, not being from this country. Heck, many who've lived here their whole lives don't really understand it.

    Medicare is a national health policy that the elderly buy AFTER they turn 65. I think it's 65, perhaps a bit younger if they have a disability.

    But, Medicare is not a freebie like Medicaid. When a person starts drawing SS, after retirement, a portion of their SS payment is automatically taken out to pay for their Medicare. Medicare does not cover all medical expenses, however, so the person must also have private policy. My mother has Medicare and Blue Cross. She pays every month for the additional Blue Cross coverage, and I think nearly all her care is covered. Perhaps not medications, because I know she pays for those herself.

    My mother is not eligible for Medicaid because she's not indigent. Only the very poor get Medicaid, and, for them, it's a freebie.

    However, if my mother got to the point where she could not stay home by herself, she would have to enter a nursing home. Nursing home care is very expensive - over $200 per day, sometimes double that. The patient would have to pay for that herself.

    When a patient enters a nursing facility, they have to pay for their as long as they have assets. If my mom went in -- she'd have to pay the bill until it ate up all her savings. At that point, Medicaid would start paying (not Medicare). Medicaid would also seize any assets my mother still had and liquidate those to pay for her care. It costs between $75,000 and $150,000 per year per patient for nursing home care. And, that's not counting medical care.

    Once the person is destitute -- Medicaid will pay for their care.

    This leads to the adult children of elderly parents trying to hide their parent's assets so they can inherit come of them. Doesn't work too well, though. Medicaid will audit the patient's financial records to see if they sold a house for less than market value in the past five years -- things like that. And then, they'll sue the family members for the money.

    That's why more folks are caring for their elderly parents in their homes if they can.
    Put your money in a trust to avoid losing your assets if you get stuck in the hospital for a long period of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Not exactly. All workers pay FICA, which goes to SS and Medicare, but Medicaid is funded by other state and federal funds. A low-income taxpayer will pay FICA, but if he doesn't pay Federal or State, which many don't, he won't be paying for Medicaid. And, Medicaid is not a "pay into" thing like SS, where you pay so much and then you draw so much.
    Fair point, however ALL consumers pay state and local sales taxes. Some of that money finances Medicaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-4 View Post
    Most Medicaid recipients are elderly, disabled or already working (more than one job for some)

    But i'm sure you can find around one in ten who are able to pick up trash or something.



    Getting old is no excuse for becoming worthless. Old people can still work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Hey Granny, you want your heart medicine? Pick up that garbage and we'll think about it.
    Small price to pay. If I had a heart condition and all I had to do was pick up trash - is pick up the trash and continue living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-4 View Post
    Would you seriously send an 84 year old Granny to a roadside ravine with a garbage poker?
    I can think of a few to put her to work in right now

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