Ann Coulter's Hate Speech not protected....

[Peter1469]

No one should emulate the violent left.

The Alt-Right has discussed taking up the tactics of the hard left. Using them against them.

[Chris]

The Alt-Right has discussed taking up the tactics of the hard left. Using them against them.

Sure, the way Milo Yiannopoulos did.

[Safety]

That makes it subject to First Amendment protections.

I am not going to go back and read all 11 pages or whatever it is of this thread. I suspect the subject has been pretty well hashed out by now. The one thing I would comment on is something Chris said... he mentioned it was perplexing that UC would choose to silence the speaker instead of addressing the threat to the speaker. This is something I have commented on privately many times.

When some person or group threatens a speaker for espousing views with which he disagrees, public institutions should never take the easy path and just cancel the address. Instead, they should encourage the speaker to go forth and make it clear that threats of violence will not kill free speech in this country.

I watched a video clip yesterday of some thug from AntiFa hitting a Trump supporter with a sock that had a padlock in it. It opened up the guy's scalp like a razor. That guy should be hunted down and beat to a bloody pulp and put on public display as an example of what will happen if you try to use violence to block political speech. If you want to protest or speak out against a position, do so. That is your right and in some cases, your duty, but cross the line into violence and you have no place in our society.

Subject to, but still not a government entity, and even still, there are some things the first amendment doesn't protect at state run universities

[MisterVeritis]

No one should emulate the violent left.

I do not propose emulation. If the Left metes out violence we know how to do violence far better. Many of us are prior military. Many of us have endured pain. We should not shrink back where the law has failed.

[patrickt]

He would be correct. Coulter's freedom of speech is not being squashed by the government, therefore, there is no violation. There is no expectation of freedom of speech outside the government's limitation.

I would have thought constitutionalists and those who claim to hold the constitution close to their heart would know this already.

That's cute but Gov. Dean specifically said Ann Coulter's "hate speech" isn't protected by the Constitution. He's obviously referring to the drive on by the leftists to make speech they don't want to hear illegal in spite of the First Amendment.

[patrickt]

Universities, public and private, championed free speech in the past. This new trend of violent protests shutting off debate is contrary to the entire purpose of the university.

I'm only 76 and I don't remembering them "championing" free speech but when I went to college they did encourage the expression of conflicting views. The professors back in those dark ages weren't proselytizing but were simply referees at the classroom debates correcting logical errors and teaching people to stick to the point. But, "championing" free speech? Nah!

[patrickt]

The Alt-Right has discussed taking up the tactics of the hard left. Using them against them.

That would be like having an election where you had to pick between Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. You are the tactics you use and if the right resorts to outrageous lies, violence, vandalism. rioting and looting, and murder like the left, where are we?

[Peter1469]

That would be like having an election where you had to pick between Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. You are the tactics you use and if the right resorts to outrageous lies, violence, vandalism. rioting and looting, and murder like the left, where are we?

I have not joined up with the Alt-Right.

[OGIS]

For leftists, that means the Pledge of Allegiance would be protected. For the social conservatives it means rap music is protected.

If I had to make a choice, I would certainly prefer to protect the Pledge of Allegiance over some of the nasty, in-your-face, childish, vulgar, racist, clueless, irrational, ignorant, know-nothing, and totalitarian con(artist)servative drivel on this forum.

But that's just me. Other liberals may have a different opinion.

[OGIS]

The university is. Read the story.

Is anything preventing her from renting a bullhorn and standing on a street corner?[1] Renting a hall? Will she be arrested and dragged off in chains if she does?

[1]That is where, traditionally, the nutters always speak from. There is one today, down at the corner near the Food For Less, screaming about Jesus. She was there yesterday from sunup to sundown.