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    So if that is what is meant by "social justice" and some will accuse me of not getting it then I will continue to extend my invitation for you to go $#@! yourself.

    ... not you @Safety , general statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    I can make a strong case that I was turned down for jobs because I am white and because I am a male. Lets put it this way, if genders and race were reversed for these two examples I am stating it would be a slam dunk lawsuit.

    But since I am a white male my chances at successfully suing for discrimination are... go ahead and guess.

    So... there, a two-fer.
    I'm guessing this was in the private sector, as being the case, you should have taken it to court if it was a strong case like you said. Having said that, I don't know you personally, so I am not privy to the information about the particulars of your situation. But, to address the concept that because you are white and male, you are not protected under the law, is in error.

    http://www.diversityinc.com/legal-is...ation-lawsuit/
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/09/wh...school-system/
    https://usnews.newsvine.com/_news/20...imination-case
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/08...m-lawsuit.html

    The law is clear, "RACE" is protected, not blacks, latins, asians, etc....but race. If you are discriminated against because of your race, you have a lawsuit. Hell, I've seen black people sue other black people over race discrimination. The idea that so many minorities are suing people because of discrimination has no bearing on white people being able to sue because of discrimination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I'm guessing this was in the private sector, as being the case, you should have taken it to court if it was a strong case like you said. Having said that, I don't know you personally, so I am not privy to the information about the particulars of your situation. But, to address the concept that because you are white and male, you are not protected under the law, is in error.

    http://www.diversityinc.com/legal-is...ation-lawsuit/
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/09/wh...school-system/
    https://usnews.newsvine.com/_news/20...imination-case
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/08...m-lawsuit.html

    The law is clear, "RACE" is protected, not blacks, latins, asians, etc....but race. If you are discriminated against because of your race, you have a lawsuit. Hell, I've seen black people sue other black people over race discrimination. The idea that so many minorities are suing people because of discrimination has no bearing on white people being able to sue because of discrimination.
    These examples are clearly outliers, you should know better.

    Lawyers aren't tripping over each other to take on discrimination suits for white guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    These examples are clearly outliers, you should know better.

    Lawyers aren't tripping over each other to take on discrimination suits for white guys.
    But you are arguing two different things, how can there be discrimination against you being a white male, if you are able to sue just like black/brown/yellow males? If you are referring to sheer numbers of minorities suing, then just look around the forum to see how many posts are from white males about black males to see why there would be a discrepancy in the numbers. Do you think someone that creates a thread about blacks going back to Africa would not have some bias in who he hires? It seems like you are trying to compare apples to oranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Is "social justice" achieved by handicapping those who don't engage in administering social injustices simply because they belong to a certain demographic?

    I think many if not most need to consider the concept of "justice" in "social justice".

    Yes, in some cases. Example. MLK fighting for black vote, clearly seeking justice before the law, asking to enfranchise one group like everyone else, protects black right without taking away anyone else's right. Sort of like the market, win win. OTOH, quotas in company hiring and college acceptance when the person is less qualified than others, clearly there is here an injustice being done and it's unclear what the justice is--in the market, win lose. Another example. The fedederal government forcing states recognizing gay marriages, seems to me just protecting the right or privilege of marriage for all, without denying anyone else's right/privlege. But the government, at any level, forcing a business to serve gays, there is an injustice done in regulating private proeprty, without any clear justice served. I could go on but the distinction is, I think, social justice is positive involves pushing the government to treat all equal in the law, but it is negative when the government is used to try and change society.

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