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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    Take every chance to trash Christianity, but vigorously defend Islam? Pretty sure the answer is, it has nothing to do with religion at all, but pure politics.

    If not, why defend Islam? May as well convert.

    I would love to hear an Atheist take on this. Some are certainly anti Christian, but think Islam is OK. So what is the deal?
    I don't do that.

    While I'm not religious, I recognize that Islam is about 300 years behind Christianity in evolution. And, I'm not sure it'll ever catch up due to some of its tenets that enshrine the idea that women are second-class citizens. We have entire nations run by Islamic law and they are not places of equality. Plus, many of them still support barbaric practices that simply don't belong in Western society.

    I don't know why Christianity advanced yet Islam did not. But, I don't defend Islam.

    I sometimes defend individual Muslims that have adapted to Western society, though.
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    OK, I'm atheist, but I have no problem with either religion as religions, people should have have the right to worship as they choose. So I can't really answer your question personally.

    Why do some liberals speak out against Christianity? Not sure but likely because they associate it, however incorrectly, with oppression.

    Why do they defend Islam? Not sure but likely because they adhere to multiculturalism, which says don't judge others--but then why judge Christians?

    Don't know.

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    Thanks FK's, I don't want to call out names, but there is a handful of people on this board (we all know who they are) That are proud, Christianity trashing, Atheist. Some of them defend Islam or at the very least, don't trash it constantly.

    I am hoping to hear from some of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    OK, I'm atheist, but I have no problem with either religion as religions, people should have have the right to worship as they choose. So I can't really answer your question personally.

    Why do some liberals speak out against Christianity? Not sure but likely because they associate it, however incorrectly, with oppression.

    Why do they defend Islam? Not sure but likely because they adhere to multiculturalism, which says don't judge others--but then why judge Christians?

    Don't know.
    It is baffling, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    Thanks FK's, I don't want to call out names, but there is a handful of people on this board (we all know who they are) That are proud, Christianity trashing, Atheist. Some of them defend Islam or at the very least, don't trash it constantly.

    I am hoping to hear from some of them.
    You are right, I know, and it makes no sense to me.

    I have come to believe that those people are more anti-Christian than atheist. They'll adopt nearly any position that allows them to denigrate Christianity. They come, almost exclusively, from the hard Left.

    They're not thinking clearly. What they are defending is a backward way of life that if it got a strong foothold would harm their own freedoms.

    Then again, Dr. Lyle Rossiter clearly explained that some of their point of view are firmly footed in the realm of mental disorder. He details the descent into madness in his book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness."

    It's a good book. Well worth reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    You are right, I know, and it makes no sense to me.

    I have come to believe that those people are more anti-Christian than atheist. They'll adopt nearly any position that allows them to denigrate Christianity. They come, almost exclusively, from the hard Left.

    They're not thinking clearly. What they are defending is a backward way of life that if it got a strong foothold would harm their own freedoms.

    Then again, Dr. Lyle Rossiter clearly explained that some of their point of view are firmly footed in the realm of mental disorder. He details the descent into madness in his book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness."

    It's a good book. Well worth reading.
    Just the intro read is spot on.

    Also, I agree, that anti Christian is a more accurate term than Atheist, for some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    Take every chance to trash Christianity, but vigorously defend Islam? Pretty sure the answer is, it has nothing to do with religion at all, but pure politics.

    If not, why defend Islam? May as well convert.

    I would love to hear an Atheist take on this. Some are certainly anti Christian, but think Islam is OK. So what is the deal?
    I don't know that they do. A true atheist would think Islam is based on a false premise, just as Christianity... the belief in a deity.

    My view of religion is simple. I see it as superstitious nonsense, BUT if it helps people find strength and brings them solace when they need it and provides them a certain peace of mind, it is not a bad thing as long as it brings no harm to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I don't know that they do. A true atheist would think Islam is based on a false premise, just as Christianity... the belief in a deity.

    My view of religion is simple. I see it as superstitious nonsense, BUT if it helps people find strength and brings them solace when they need it and provides them a certain peace of mind, it is not a bad thing as long as it brings no harm to others.
    Good point, then the people I am describing should not claim to Atheist but rather Anti Christian. A true Atheist eschews all religions, not just some.
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    R, it has been my observation that when atheists, agnostics, or pretty much anyone else are accused of "trashing Christianity", it is almost invariably in the context of some individual Christian - be he an evangelical preacher, a politician, or something else - doing or saying something outrageous, and presuming to speak for all Christians while doing so. Legislators, Governors, judges, and other public officials who seek to impose their denomination or sect's doctrines on the general populace - they get criticized. The devout individual or family that focuses on its walk with God and tries to emulate Christ, the Christian group that builds houses for the poor or distributes groceries to the hungry or provides shelter to the homeless - not so much.

    When a television evangelist makes a public statement to the effect that a hurricane that killed hundreds was "God's judgment on a wicked city" (or the terrorist attacks of 9-11 "God's judgment on America"), people - including other Christians - firing back on that kind of ignorance is not a case of anyone "attacking Christianity"...and yet that's how some will, for their own reasons, portray it. I have even seen the media's reaction to an evangelist or pastor being caught in a sex scandal called "an attack on Christianity".

    On the other hand, the things that are most often labeled as instances of "liberals supporting Islam" have to do with whether Muslim Americans should be somehow treated differently because of their professed faith - something that is not only unconstitutional, but is just a bad idea in terms of establishing legal precedents.

    Do an Internet search sometime on "ACLU defends Christians", and you will find entire websites devoted to the subject.
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    Why do atheists attempt to explain morality away while insisting that they're good people? Finderskeepers makes a good point. Some of these people are much more interested in asserting their independence (from Christianity) than they are in maintaining coherent positions.
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