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    Quote Originally Posted by NapRover View Post
    It would be interesting to hear the founders thoughts on porn. The damage porn has done to society is immeasurable, but we allow it anyway. Prayers are needed for those addicted to it.
    So I guess I'm against free speech.
    Perhaps your dosage is wrong.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Docthehun View Post
    I think that most of us would agree that yelling "fire" in a crowded place shouldn't be permitted, even under the provisions of free speech. On the other hand, the fact that we've deemed it illegal, the issue automatically goes from black & white, to grey. Yelling "fire" could easily result in injury or death. One could argue, that a "hate" rally of any sort, could easily (and has), result in the same consequences.

    Someone wiser than myself would need to make the determination as to "the line in the sand".
    There is no law to prevent one from yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. If the report is accurate it is appropriate. Not yelling "fire" when there is one could lead to far more deaths.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Great quote but not a very prevalent attitude today. Tolerance has turned into a one way street. Which makes it all the easier for the government and megacorps to usher in 1984
    "Megacorps". I bet you walk around with an erection all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Are you suggesting that there be no libel or slander laws? Laws that protect the written word, in print or performance? (If I want to copy your book or record your song and put my own name on it, isn't that "free speech", too?) No laws regarding the confidentiality of personal information? No laws against publishing or selling classified national security information? Do any of those strike you as being reasonable exceptions to the absolutist view you appear to be expressing?
    This is what Leftists do.

    Can an individual libel or slander the government?

    There are no laws against publishing classified material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This is what Leftists do.

    Can an individual libel or slander the government?

    There are no laws against publishing classified material.
    18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information


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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Simply pointing out that one man's free speech is another man's heresy.
    This is how tyranny begins. Should we agree with the Islamists that defaming Islam is a capital offense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
    Quote the specific section that prohibits publishing classified material. Then determine who has the responsibility for protecting classified materials.

    By the way, the clue you missed is in the first line.
    Last edited by MisterVeritis; 04-26-2017 at 02:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Quote the specific section that prohibits publishing classified material. Then determine who has the responsibility for protecting classified materials.

    By the way, the clue you missed is in the first line.
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—(1)concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or

    (2)concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or

    (3)concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or

    (4)obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—

    Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Perhaps your dosage is wrong.
    I keep asking my doctor if medical black African jungle tripweed, laced with ganja, is right for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Should I be able, with impunity, to say loudly, "I'm going to blow up this airplane with a bomb", while standing in line to board a commercial airline flight?
    Standing, you have made your point. You want the government to have the right to criminalize speech. I may disagree with you, Standing, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Even though I realize you will not defend my right to speak.

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