Karl Rove—Poster Boy for National Suicide

[Mister D]

Karl Rove is a principal architect of the GOP's 30-year advocacy for mass immigration. Karl Rove can also be seen as the principal architect of the GOP's November 2012 disaster—because the large Hispanic vote turned around and bit him.
Rove, who has lived in Texas since 1981, was apparently impressed by the quality of post-Castro Cuban immigration. He must have failed to notice that the professional class was fleeing Castro, so the Cubans he met were not precisely representative of Cuba’s general population.
Unfortunately, Rove's enthusiasm for more and more immigration was welcomed by U.S. businesses who saw, cynically, that they could profit from a policy that depresses wages. They have been the main funders of Rove’s gargantuan PACs.
In 2012, Hispanics seem to have accounted for approximately 10 percent of the total vote. They broke overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. The presence of Cuban Hispanics was felt only in Florida, the closest electoral college race in the county.
If Karl Rove is confused that his indiscriminate welcome mat for Hispanics did not buy forever-gratitude, the explanation is simple: Cubans are not Guatemalans, are not Mexicans. In fact, the 1997 National Research Council report, "The New Americans", showed that the average immigrant from Central American is educated to less than the eighth-grade level. They compete primarily for manual labor jobs.

http://www.vdare.com/articles/karl-r...tional-suicide

[Conley]

I don't want to take this OT D, so tell me if you would prefer I start a different thread on this.

One thing I don't get in the post mortem by the GOP is the bigger focus on Hispanics instead of looking at women as a group where they could improve...it seems like big gains could be made with women without as big of a jump from the traditional party platform, all states have a significant female population etc...immigration is full of land mines, affects some states more than others, amnesty is going to piss off your base, etc. On the other hand, appeal to women and those swing states could easily have been swung.

[Mainecoons]

"The New Americans", showed that the average immigrant from Central American is educated to less than the eighth-grade level. They compete primarily for manual labor jobs.

Note the real significance of this. The last thing that unskilled American labor needs is for the country to import competition for too few jobs. Just another example of how the Democratic Party si busy screwing the less well off with their open borders advocacy. Blacks, of course, are really getting screwed by this, a fact missed by our clueless friend Cigar.

They are busy on so many fronts screwing the people on the bottom. Jacking up fuel and energy costs hurts the people on the bottom the most. Jacking up medical costs so that employers of the unskilled and low paid cannot afford to keep them working. Their unions just killed the jobs of 18,000 people at Hostess, most of those jobs would have been unskilled and semi-skilled.

The monstrous lie of our time is that the Democrats are for the little guy. The Democrats are killing the little guys.

[truthmatters]

blaming the American voters for not liking what you offer will lead ot yet more failure at the polls for you

[Deadwood]

I don't want to take this OT D, so tell me if you would prefer I start a different thread on this.

One thing I don't get in the post mortem by the GOP is the bigger focus on Hispanics instead of looking at women as a group where they could improve...it seems like big gains could be made with women without as big of a jump from the traditional party platform, all states have a significant female population etc...immigration is full of land mines, affects some states more than others, amnesty is going to piss off your base, etc. On the other hand, appeal to women and those swing states could easily have been swung.

Please do, the headline is misleading, the conclusions drawn dubious. There is too large a focus on hispanics and the result of a policy for which no statistics are provided.

As in all elections there is losing and failing to win, which would be the case here. The ensuring failures after the last debate would be the primary cause; they went dull and their supporters failed to show up.

[Mister D]

Note the real significance of this. The last thing that unskilled American labor needs is for the country to import competition for too few jobs. Just another example of how the Democratic Party si busy screwing the less well off with their open borders advocacy. Blacks, of course, are really getting screwed by this, a fact missed by our clueless friend Cigar.

They are busy on so many fronts screwing the people on the bottom. Jacking up fuel and energy costs hurts the people on the bottom the most. Jacking up medical costs so that employers of the unskilled and low paid cannot afford to keep them working. Their unions just killed the jobs of 18,000 people at Hostess, most of those jobs would have been unskilled and semi-skilled.

The monstrous lie of our time is that the Democrats are for the little guy. The Democrats are killing the little guys.

Exactly. Indeed, it is the lower classes that our hit hardest by Latin American migration.

[Mister D]

I don't want to take this OT D, so tell me if you would prefer I start a different thread on this.

One thing I don't get in the post mortem by the GOP is the bigger focus on Hispanics instead of looking at women as a group where they could improve...it seems like big gains could be made with women without as big of a jump from the traditional party platform, all states have a significant female population etc...immigration is full of land mines, affects some states more than others, amnesty is going to piss off your base, etc. On the other hand, appeal to women and those swing states could easily have been swung.

I think it is because the GOP establishment is still delusional enough to believe that poor, gradeschool educated Hispanics will be receptive to their message. The failures with women have less to do with policy than they do with the fact that Republicans allow themselves to be smeared as "anti-female". The ammunition given to the Democrats for their war on women bologna throughout the campaign was preventable. The GOP can appeal to women. They cannot appeal to a majority of Hispanics.

[KC]

So now, do you think the GOP will crack down on immigration or will they continue Rove's strategy of giving them the welcome mat?

[Mister D]

Please do, the headline is misleading, the conclusions drawn dubious. There is too large a focus on hispanics and the result of a policy for which no statistics are provided.

As in all elections there is losing and failing to win, which would be the case here. The ensuring failures after the last debate would be the primary cause; they went dull and their supporters failed to show up.

Is it? Why? Here is a stat for you: Hispanics voted overwhelmingly for BO to the tune of 70-71%.

You lost. There are reasons you lost. One of them is that the country is getting browner.

[Mister D]

So now, do you think the GOP will crack down on immigration or will they continue Rove's strategy of giving them the welcome mat?

The GOP will begin Hispandering sooner rather than later.