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    The Mystery Of MH370

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/asia/m...rch-suspended/

    It's been a little over 3 months since the search for the plane has ended. And now over 2 years since it went missing.
    I was somewhat baffled that the logic used to search for the plane was based on an assumed flight plan. I would think they would have based the search on where the pieces were found and the currents that landed them there..?
    But what do I know, In the article I posted, Australia's transport minister Darren Chester mentions a similar theory.
    Last edited by rcfieldz; 04-26-2017 at 06:23 PM.

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    It's like finding a needle in a hundred haystacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    It's like finding a needle in a hundred haystacks.
    Or a modern day Titanic?
    Last edited by rcfieldz; 04-26-2017 at 08:56 PM.

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    It's too bad they didn't have a record to look for it like this:
    https://www.flightradar24.com/-2.05,101.02/5
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    Satellite photos show MH370's possible location...

    Satellite photos give new clues to MH370's possible location
    Aug. 16, 2017 -- Australian investigators have released reports highlighting satellite photographs that may show debris from a missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 that crashed more than three years ago.
    Imagery from a French military satellite appears to show dozens of pieces of debris floating on the surface of the Indian Ocean -- close to, but not in, the designated search zone. Malaysia Airlines MH370 disappeared as it traveled from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8, 2014, with 239 people aboard.

    Four satellite photos included in the Australian Transport Safety Bureau reports were taken two weeks after the plane disappeared, prior to the ATSB's involvement in the search. "Clearly we must be cautious. These objects have not been definitely identified as MH370 debris," ATSB Chief Commissioner Greg Hood said Wednesday. "Geoscience Australia identified a number of objects in the satellite imagery which have been classified as probably man-made. The image resolution is not high enough to be certain whether the objects originated from MH370 or are other objects that might be found floating in oceans around the world."


    A satellite photo taken by the French military shows dozens of objects on the surface of the Indian Ocean in March 2014, which are possible remnants from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

    The ATSB said it received the satellite photos in March and scrutinized them as part of a re-examination of MH370's disappearance. The search of a 9,600 square-mile area of the Indian Ocean was suspended in January. Debris that washed up on the east coast of Africa has been confirmed by authorities as likely parts from the missing plane. All 239 people on board are presumed dead, but it remains unclear what caused the aircraft to crash. A U.S. underwater exploration company has offered to search areas of the ocean not yet investigated.

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...&utm_medium=20

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    MH370 not found after 300K-mile search...

    Final report: No location for MH370 after 300K-mile search
    Oct. 3, 2017 -- Despite more than 1,000 days of searching, the search for missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 has ended, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said on Tuesday.
    In its final report, the ATSB noted that the underwater search mapped nearly 300,000 miles of Indian Ocean sea floor. The search for the plane lasted from March 2014 until January 2017, making it one of the largest searches of its type in aviation history. The challenge for investigators was the limited amount of data they had to work, with including some aircraft performance information and satellite communication metadata, data found during the underwater search, and long-term drift studies to trace the origin of MH370 debris. Data from the plane's location was limited because no transmissions were received from the aircraft after the initial 40 minutes of flight. Automatic detection systems were unable to transmit the plane's position after this time, further limiting investigators.


    Crew members aboard the Australian Navy ship HMAS Success watch as a helicopter participates in the search for Malaysia Airlines flight 370 in the Indian Ocean, about 1,000 miles off the coast of Perth, Australia.

    In 2015 and 2016, debris from MH370 was found on the shores of Indian Ocean islands and near the east African coastline. The debris gave investigators and scientists significant new evidence that allowed them to pinpoint the exact area where the plane may have ended its flight. "The underwater search area was located up to 2,800 km west of the coast of Western Australia and the prevailing weather conditions in this area for much of the year are challenging," the report said. "Crews on the search vessels were working for months at a time in conditions which elevated the operational risks." Of 661 areas of interest identified as locations for the crash, 82 were thoroughly investigated.

    Although the understanding of where MH370 may be located is better now than it has ever been and despite the efforts of investigators, the aircraft still hasn't been located. "The reasons for the loss of MH370 cannot be established with certainty until the aircraft is found," the report said. "It is almost inconceivable and certainly societally unacceptable in the modern aviation era with 10 million passengers boarding commercial aircraft every day, for a large commercial aircraft to be missing and for the world not to know with certainty what became of the aircraft and those on board."


    Out of 661 areas identified, 82 of the most promising were thoroughly searched. Despite 1,000 days of search efforts, the aircraft carrying 239 people has not been found.

    Malaysia Airlines flight 370 was lost from a flight from Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia to Beijing in China. The Boeing 777 was carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew members. It was thought to have blown off course and crashed in the southern Indian Ocean. In 2017, Malaysia Airlines said it has become the first carrier to enlist to a satellite flight tracking system that will monitor the location of company's fleet worldwide.

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...&utm_medium=11

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    Malaysia has received proposals from three companies offering to continue the search...

    Malaysia Says No decision On Offers to Search for Missing MH370
    October 17, 2017 — Malaysia said on Tuesday it has received proposals from three companies offering to continue the search for Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, which has been missing since 2014, but no decision has been made yet.
    MH370 vanished three years ago somewhere in the southern Indian Ocean en route to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur with 239 people aboard. Its disappearance has become one of the world's greatest aviation mysteries.

    Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said proposals were received from U.S.-based seabed exploration firm Ocean Infinity, Dutch firm Fugro and an unidentified Malaysian company. "We wont be deciding anything now on whether we are embarking on a new search or not," Liow told reporters on the sidelines of an event in Kuala Lumpur. "We have to discuss with the companies. It will take some time as it's some detailed discussions," he said.

    Liow was commenting on media reports from Australia that said Malaysia could resume the search as early as this week. Australia, Malaysia and China called off a A$200 million ($159.16 million), two-year search for the plane in January, amid protests from families of those onboard. Liow said the proposals would eventually be presented to the other countries in the tripartite committee - China and Australia - before a decision was taken.

    Representatives for Ocean Infinity have said the company would only want to be paid if the aircraft was found. The Boeing 777 aircraft disappeared on March 8, 2014, and is thought to have been diverted thousands of miles off course out over the southern Indian Ocean before crashing off the coast of Western Australia.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/malaysia-h...e/4073571.html

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    I wonder whether maritime laws regarding salvage rights would apply to an aircraft that went down in the ocean; but then even if so, it might not be much money.
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    Malaysia in deal with US firm to restart plane search...

    MH370: Malaysia in deal with US firm to restart plane search
    Fri, 20 Oct 2017 - Texas-based Ocean Infinity signs a deal to search for plane wreckage on a "no find-no fee" basis.
    Malaysia has struck a "no find-no fee" deal with a US company to locate the wreckage of downed flight MH370. The government accepted an offer from Ocean Infinity, according to Australian Transport Minister Darren Chester. The Texas-based company will foot the bill if it fails to find the wreckage. The disappearance of MH370 remains shrouded in mystery. The Malaysia Airlines flight fell off radar on 8 March 2014, between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing, with 239 people on board. A massive maritime search operation for the plane cleared 120,000 sq km at an estimated cost of about A$200m (£120m; €133m), before it was suspended in January.


    The search for the Malaysia Airlines plane was suspended in January

    Ocean Infinity has not revealed the estimated cost of the new search. According to Mr Chester, the company will focus on a 25,000 sq km area identified by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau as having a "high probability" of containing the aircraft. The company is using a centuries-old model known in the salvage industry as "no cure-no pay" - a type of deal usually applied in the recovery of valuable sunken cargo. Under such a deal, a salvage company will take on the financial risk of a recovery and recoup from the owner a percentage of the cargo's value if it is found, often 80 or 90%. In this case, Ocean Infinity would likely be working instead for a set fee from the Malaysian government, and for the significant publicity on offer should it find the wreckage, an industry expert told the BBC.


    A Vietnamese military officer looks for wreckage of MH370 during the initial search

    MH370 was carrying passengers and crew from 14 different countries when it disappeared. Most were from China and Malaysia. Australia led the initial search, after aviation officials identified the ocean floor off its coast as the likely location of the wreckage. The country has agreed to provide technical assistance for the new search, Mr Chester said. Earlier this month, Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said the government had received proposals from three private search firms - Ocean Infinity, Dutch firm Fugro and an unidentified Malaysian company. Delivering its report into the disappearance earlier this month, Australia's Transport Safety Bureau said it was "almost inconceivable" that the aircraft had not been found.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41691794

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    Search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 to resume...

    Search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 to resume
    Jan. 5, 2018 -- The search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is set to resume by a private U.S. exploration company, according to an airline support group.
    With 239 people aboard, the Boeing 777 aircraft disappeared on March 8, 2014, on its way to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur. Investigators believe the aircraft headed south over the Indian Ocean and about six hours into the flight plummeted into the water. No bodies were recovered and only a few fragments of the jet turned up on Africa's eastern coast.


    A family member of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 passengers cries during a remembrance ceremony to mark the second anniversary of the plane's disappearance. Search for the aircraft, which disappeared March 8, 2014, is set to resume soon

    Without finding a trace of the aircraft, a two-year underwater search led by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau ended a year ago with a price tag of $200 million to Australian, Malaysian and Chinese taxpayers.

    Ocean Infinity, a Houston-based company, offered the Malaysian government a risk-free undertaking of the project, charging a fee only if it finds the wreckage of the plane. The company has sent a ship to the possible search area while it waits for a formal contract from the government, which Ocean Infinity expects in the days ahead. A government spokesperson said more details about the deal would be available in the coming weeks.

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