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    Isis faces exodus of foreign fighters as its 'caliphate' crumbles

    Isis faces exodus of foreign fighters as its 'caliphate' crumbles

    How many of them will carry on the fight back in their home nations? This has had western nations concerned for some time.

    Large numbers of foreign fighters and sympathisers are abandoning Islamic Stateand trying to enter Turkey, with at least two British nationals and a US citizen joining an exodus that is depleting the ranks of the terror group.

    Stefan Aristidou, from Enfield in north London, his British wife and Kary Paul Kleman, from Florida, last week surrendered to Turkish border police after more than two years in areas controlled by Isis, sources have confirmed to the Guardian.


    Dozens more foreigners have fled in recent weeks, most caught as they tried to cross the frontier, as Isis’s capacity to hold ground in Syria and Iraq collapses. Some – it is not known how many – are thought to have evaded capture and made it across the border into Turkey.


    Aristidou, who is believed to be in his mid-20s, surrendered at the Kilis crossing in southern Turkey along with his wife – said to be a British woman of Bangladeshi heritage – and Kleman, 46. The American had arrived at the border with a Syrian wife and two Egyptian women, whose spouses had been killed in Syria or Iraq, Turkish officials said.


    Aristidou said he had travelled to Syria to settle rather than fight. The officials said he had admitted to having been based in Raqqa and al-Bab, both of which had been Isis strongholds until al-Bab was recaptured by Turkish-backed Syrian opposition forces earlier this year. He went missing in April 2015 after flying to Larnaca in Cyprus. Neighbours told the Guardian that he had adopted Islamic dress shortly before he disappeared.
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    When you tent a house for roaches they either flee, or die. Fleas flee, the corpse.
    There is no God but Resister and Refugee is his messenger’.

    Book of Democrat Things, Chapter 1:1






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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    When you tent a house for roaches they either flee, or die. Fleas flee, the corpse.
    The roaches that make it out, go to the nearest shelter.
    There is no God but Resister and Refugee is his messenger’.

    Book of Democrat Things, Chapter 1:1






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    ISIL was a proto-state with basically a motorized infantry for an army. When that proto-state collapses, many of the fighters will shift gears to international terrorism.

    Personally, I would prefer them to be killing one another in Middle Eastern deserts than trying to blow me up in the United Lounge in Munich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    ISIL was a proto-state with basically a motorized infantry for an army. When that proto-state collapses, many of the fighters will shift gears to international terrorism.

    Personally, I would prefer them to be killing one another in Middle Eastern deserts than trying to blow me up in the United Lounge in Munich.
    They should slaughter them at the border, but the lack of uniforms would present a problem, geurilla warfare is hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    They should slaughter them at the border, but the lack of uniforms would present a problem, geurilla warfare is hell.
    Yes. They are using so-called forth generation warfare tactics. (I don't agree with the term).
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    If true, and I suspect it is, then it's a classic case of rats abandoning the ship. Damn, I bet they miss Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    If true, and I suspect it is, then it's a classic case of rats abandoning the ship. Damn, I bet they miss Obama.
    The Islamic State is being rolled back. The day after they declared their Caliphate I predicted they would not last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Isis faces exodus of foreign fighters as its 'caliphate' crumbles


    How many of them will carry on the fight back in their home nations? This has had western nations concerned for some time.
    If someone is known to have gone off to fight for ISIS and attempts to return to their Nation now, if that Nation is smart those people will be arrested and put on trial for any and every crime that is applicable and locked up or executed as fits their crimes. What they cannot be allowed to do is simply blend back into their society with the highly probable result being them attacking their own fellow citizens, totally unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    If someone is known to have gone off to fight for ISIS and attempts to return to their Nation now, if that Nation is smart those people will be arrested and put on trial for any and every crime that is applicable and locked up or executed as fits their crimes. What they cannot be allowed to do is simply blend back into their society with the highly probable result being them attacking their own fellow citizens, totally unacceptable.

    I agree. European nations are trying to deradicalize them. I think that is too risky.
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