Trump Approval Exposes Fragmented US

[Captain Obvious]

It's a little hyperbolic to claim the middle class has been raped.

I doubt real economic reform will happen under Trump. It also depends on what you consider real economic reform.

As to the so called racialist/social liberalism. You may see it as a negative and something that is intended to divide, but in all honestly, the intention is only to support those who have been marginalized. You may not see it that way, but truly that is the intention. It isn't to rub it in the nose of Christians or to subjugate minorities. It's to right past wrongs and to even the playing field.

It's also hard to take what you say seriously or to believe that you would ever give liberals a chance. You think they hate America and you treat them like a mortal enemy and wish for their deaths. So I tend to take what you say with a grain of salt.

Thanks for your opinion but I stopped caring about what people think of my perspectives a long time ago.

I partially disagree with your second point, I think Trump will bring real economic progress over time - whatever that turns out to be, at least moreso than the smoke-and-mirrors "dump $#@!loads of cash, rack up more debt than all other US presidents combined and artificially force interest rates down" approach the previous administration shoved down our throats.

Anything is better than that catastrophic approach - anything.

Your first point is too easy to debunk. The super wealthy got super wealthier on teh O'bammy's watch while the poorest got poorester. Who funds programs like expanded Medicaid? The wealthy? The poor? Our standard of living has been eroding for decades - by "our" I mean the middle class. Who funds all of this $#@!, who pays for generations of immeasurable debt? The middle class has been too easy a target for the establishment and Trump's election is a direct result of the middle class saying "enough". Unfortunately I see Trump gravitating toward establishment and that would make the entire Trumpslide thing unfortunate but still better than handing the keys over to Rodham and her pack of establishment cronies.

We have never been more racially, socially, class, ideologically divided than at any point in our history. O'bammy owns a lot of that, he did nothing to bring this country together, he was only capable of furthering the divide with his destructive agenda - his "progressive" agenda. Progress is poison, it destroys nations. The damage is done, if Trump does nothing we're eons ahead after 8 years of catastrophe.

The rest of your stuff, meh... whatever

[Common]

The real division in America is clearly urban vs. rural. Clearly they have different vales and issues they hold dear...and as they should.

I can understand how some from rural and small town America can support Trump after seeing a long decay that includes a loss of good paying jobs and deserted main streets. I would say the loss of manufacturing due to offshoring and automation and big box stores are the culprit. Not libruls and cities.

Your right about outsourcing and cities but you are dead wrong about liberals. Liberals have become an issue with babyboomers especially since obama went nuts. You have no idea how men in womens bathrooms upset even some democrat babyboomers, that to them was a huge step to far. The progressive left agenda had as much to do with it as anything else

[Common Sense]

Your right about outsourcing and cities but you are dead wrong about liberals. Liberals have become an issue with babyboomers especially since obama went nuts. You have no idea how men in womens bathrooms upset even some democrat babyboomers, that to them was a huge step to far. The progressive left agenda had as much to do with it as anything else

I don't see exactly how Obama "went nuts". His political views differ from yours, but he didn't go nuts.

People who see inclusionary legislation for the LGBT community as an attack on them are wrong. It's not an attack on them. It's an attempt to include marginalized people. Hysteria surrounding the bathroom issue is just that, hysteria. Much of that hysteria is fed by the rightwing blogsphere and fear based rhetoric.

Liberals may indeed have forgotten about middle America and rural America, but it's not an intentional attack.

However Democrats should be more sensitive to the values of middle America and have them be a part of the dialogue.

[DGUtley]

I don't see exactly how Obama "went nuts". His political views differ from yours, but he didn't go nuts.

They went too far. I have friends that voted for him in 08 but thought he was crazy by 2012.
“When you find yourself in the Supreme Court adverse to the Little Sisters of the Poor you might consider whether maybe you have pushed a little too far. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.14634dfc9d74

Liberals may indeed have forgotten about middle America and rural America, but it's not an intentional attack.

I disagree. D's made a conscious strategy to go identity politics and ignore middle America believing demographics carried the day. They were wrong.

[Captain Obvious]

“When you find yourself in the Supreme Court adverse to the Little Sisters of the Poor you might consider whether maybe you have pushed a little too far. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.14634dfc9d74







I disagree. D's made a conscious strategy to go identity politics and ignore middle America believing demographics carried the day. They were wrong.

Boom!

[Mini Me]

Your right about outsourcing and cities but you are dead wrong about liberals. Liberals have become an issue with babyboomers especially since obama went nuts. You have no idea how men in womens bathrooms upset even some democrat babyboomers, that to them was a huge step to far. The progressive left agenda had as much to do with it as anything else

Men in womens bathrooms? hahahahahah Such a FAKE ISSUE! Not happening!

[Common]

I agree with most of that. The mistake Dems have made was to put their eggs in one basket and assume the other baskets weren't an option. There are exceptions of course. There are rural areas that do go Blue, but they are few and far between.

It's easy to lump any group together. The left does it with rural America and you just did with liberals. Most liberals aren't out in the streets wearing vagina hats. Those folks represent themselves and are expressing their outrage. That's their right.

But what the Dems should be doing is looking for solid leadership and economic policies that can attract the on the fence rural voter. Unfortunately for Democrats the well has been poisoned. The division, hysteria and hyperbole have the right leaning person thinking things like "Why do progressive liberals hate America?".

Even with a solid platform and good leadership, the Dems will face the hysteria and facebook news from the right. Frankly the only hope for the Dems at this point is that Trump $#@!s up very badly and it mobilizes the apathetic voter and a few from the right.

But in the end, the Dems must reach out to middle America. Not exactly sure how though.

You convolute a simple answer, the dems went too far to the left and forgot about everyone else. The working class felt that men in womens bathrooms werent as important to them as a president at least trying to get decent paying jobs or at least mentioning it. Loretta Lynchs Justice Dept didnt do a whole lot to garner dems votes either.

[Common]

Men in womens bathrooms? hahahahahah Such a FAKE ISSUE! Not happening!

You sir are a fake

[Captain Obvious]

You sir are a fake

He texted that sitting next to the tampon disposal can.

[Green Arrow]

It puts these polls in a whole new light when you consider that disapproval ratings are stuffed with criminals, prostitutes and goat herders.

It's actually a full-out approval rating by default.

Yes, because everyone who lives in the city is a deadbeat and all working Americans are saints.