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    I have to objection to a class based policy.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I have to objection to a class based policy.
    Huh?

    Did you mean "have to object" or "have no objection"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Huh?

    Did you mean "have to object" or "have no objection"?
    lol Yeah, the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    lol Yeah, the latter.
    One of the major liberal universities - Columbia maybe? - moved to a class based AA system but a recent SCOTUS ruling forced them to move back I believe even though that program had positive results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    One of the major liberal universities - Columbia maybe? - moved to a class based AA system but a recent SCOTUS ruling forced them to move back I believe even though that program had positive results.
    Interesting. It's so much less divisive I don't know why they would force them ack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Racial equality should be equality for all races. Affirmative action contradicts the concept of racial equality.

    Having said that there is real racial inequality. What could be considered is a "pay for performance" plan that would focus on CLASS (not race specifically) and a person of an identified underprivileged class can be given the opportunity for education and then a job based on criteria. If that person scores well during the education part, their education costs are waived and they are given the OPPORTUNITY to work them off to a degree with a job. Of course certain employers would need to be given incentives to hire this group of people, but if they do not do well in college or whatever, they may then be required to either work those costs off or be expelled from the program or something like that.

    If they do well in the educational portion of the plan, they may then be required to work a fix period of time in one of the jobs which may include at a University or as a social worker or something like that at a hospital - say 4 years.

    Then they're on their own if they complete these requirements.

    A plan like this would take taxpayer money and give an opportunity to the underprivileged - but still require them to perform to maintain the program.
    The concept is good. The timing, regarding all affirmative action initiatives is incorrect. The initiative and incentives should be taken at a much earlier process in the education system. Inspire parents and their children with affirmative action programs at a much earlier age to garner a better, and more worthy result/receipent.

    This produces an effort of the citizenry at a much earlier stage to seize an opportunity. Efforts are rewarded before late stage advanced education, or, the workforce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadianeye View Post
    The concept is good. The timing, regarding all affirmative action initiatives is incorrect. The initiative and incentives should be taken at a much earlier process in the education system. Inspire parents and their children with affirmative action programs at a much earlier age to garner a better, and more worthy result/receipent.

    This produces an effort of the citizenry at a much earlier stage to seize an opportunity. Efforts are rewarded before late stage advanced education, or, the workforce.
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    It will be really interesting to see how historical Majorities handle this law once they become the Minority.
    “Conservatism is the fear that somewhere, somehow, someone you think is your inferior is being treated as your equal"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    It will be really interesting to see how historical Majorities handle this law once they become the Minority.

    Why? I have no problem with a system based on merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    It will be really interesting to see how historical Majorities handle this law once they become the Minority.
    They already outcompete you and likely always will regardless of minority or majority status.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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