Parents' outrage as transgendered woman is permitted to use the women's locker room

[oceanloverOH]

A comment from another article on this subject (this is the face of modern libness, which truly needs to be classified as a mental disorder):

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...ung-girls.html

"Having a penis does not equate to maleness"!? WTF?

Let me echo that......."Having a penis does not equate to maleness"!? WTF?

[Adelaide]

A comment from another article on this subject (this is the face of modern libness, which truly needs to be classified as a mental disorder):

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...ung-girls.html

"Having a penis does not equate to maleness"!? WTF?

Gender identity and biological sex are complicated. Take for example people born with both male and female sex organs - often, they identify more with one gender and choose to undergo surgery and hormone therapy. Sometimes parents make the decision while they're still infants or toddlers and then that person ends up always wondering if the gender they were assigned was the right one. Then there are all sorts of chromosomal abnormalities that can blur the lines of biological sex.

So no, having a penis does not automatically equate to "maleness".

[Mister D]

Gender identity and biological sex are complicated. Take for example people born with both male and female sex organs - often, they identify more with one gender and choose to undergo surgery and hormone therapy. Sometimes parents make the decision while they're still infants or toddlers and then that person ends up always wondering if the gender they were assigned was the right one. Then there are all sorts of chromosomal abnormalities that can blur the lines of biological sex.

So no, having a penis does not automatically equate to "maleness".

People born with male and female organs are like people born with missing limbs. They are supposed to have two arms, two legs, and one set of sexual organs. No, the biology really isn't complicated.

[patrickt]

Our government has a vested interest in manufacturing opportunities for shysters to sue. A business hired a person who subsequently said she was transgender. She still had the male parts and the women in the business did not want to share a bathroom with her. She didn't want to share a bathroom with males. So, the company made a private bathroom. One would think that was a nice, albeit expensive resolution to the problem. Wrong. They got sued.

Unless a person "come out" as a transgender person there is no reason for co-workers to know. I worked with a man who was quite shy and couldn't use a urinal. For all I know he was really a woman but I never asked. Women's facilities always offer far more privacy than do men's facitlites so why would anyone need to know the woman in cubicle three has a penis?

Because, if nobody knows, you can't sue anyone.

[Adelaide]

People born with male and female organs are like people born with missing limbs. They are supposed to have two arms, two legs, and one set of sexual organs. No, the biology really isn't complicated.

No, it's not that simple. If a person is born with both male and female reproductive organs, how or who should decide which gender that person identifies with? Are they both male and female just because of the organs?

It's not just about the biology. Gender identity is a complex issue that is not black and white.

[Mister D]

No, it's not that simple. If a person is born with both male and female reproductive organs, how or who should decide which gender that person identifies with? Are they both male and female just because of the organs?

It's not just about the biology. Gender identity is a complex issue that is not black and white.

Yes, it is that simple. There is something wrong with someone born with male and female reproductive organs. It's not third sex that complicates human biology. It's a genetic fuckup.

[Adelaide]

Yes, it is that simple. There is something wrong with someone born with male and female reproductive organs. It's not third sex that complicates human biology. It's a genetic fuckup.

No, it's not the norm but it highlights the complicated nature of gender identity.

[Mister D]

No, it's not the norm but it highlights the complicated nature of gender identity.

No, it doesn't. It's complicates the identity of an individual born in such awful circumstances.

[oceanloverOH]

Gender identity and biological sex are complicated. Take for example people born with both male and female sex organs - often, they identify more with one gender and choose to undergo surgery and hormone therapy. Sometimes parents make the decision while they're still infants or toddlers and then that person ends up always wondering if the gender they were assigned was the right one. Then there are all sorts of chromosomal abnormalities that can blur the lines of biological sex.

So no, having a penis does not automatically equate to "maleness".

I can agree with you in the theoretical sense. But in this particular context, it's about a male displaying his genitalia to teenage females. Most ladies locker areas do have private areas for dressing, or at least enclosed stalls for bathroom functions. This person could have chosen to keep his male genitalia out of public view, and chose not to. That's the real issue here.

[patlape]

This Shim does not belong in the girls room and I cant say I would want Shim in the boys room at the same time as my boy either. Maybe try the family restroom?