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    lOL at Global Warming one more time

    I am cruising Alaska in August. One of the big Icecaps that we will do an excursion on has the history noted. "The Icacap has declined a little YOY since 1700."

    I am am sure it's listed by the ruse makers as an issue. Jeez! Humm the climate naturally changes who would have thunk it?
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    Granny don't like it when it gets hot - makes it hard for her to cut the grass...

    Warming to Worsen Dead Zones, Algae Blooms Choking US Waterways
    July 27, 2017 | WASHINGTON — Projected increases in rain from global warming could further choke U.S. waterways with fertilizer runoff that trigger dead zones and massive algae blooms, a new study said.
    If greenhouse gas emissions keep rising, more and heavier rain will increase nitrogen flowing into lakes, rivers and bays by about 19 percent by the end of the century, according to a study in Thursday's journal Science. While that may not sound like much, many coastal areas are already heavily loaded with nitrogen. Researchers calculated that an extra 860,000 tons of nitrogen yearly will wash into American waterways by century's end.


    The nutrients create low-oxygen dead zones and harmful blooms of algae in the Gulf of Mexico, Great Lakes, Pacific Northwest and Atlantic coast. "Many of these coastal areas are already suffering year-in, year-out from these dead zones and algal blooms,'' said one of the researchers, Anna Michalak, an ecologist at the Carnegie Institution for Science at Stanford University. "And climate change will make it all worse.''



    In this image provided by NASA, taken Aug. 3, 2015, phytoplankton is seen off the coast of New York, top and New Jersey, left.



    When waterways are overloaded with nutrients, algae growth can run amok, creating dead zones. Algae can also choke waterways with "green mats of goop on top of the water'' that are giant floating blooms, Michalak said. The blooms often have toxins that can pollute drinking water. In 2014, a bloom on Lake Erie fouled tap water for half a million people in Toledo, Ohio, for more than two days.


    The study, which is based on computer simulations, found the Northeast and Midwest will be hit hardest by the increase in nitrogen runoff. Most of the excess nitrogen from fertilizer use and the burning of coal, oil and gas would flow into the Mississippi River system and into the Gulf of Mexico, one of the largest dead zones on Earth, researchers said. "The results are incredibly interesting and compelling,'' said Samantha Joye, a University of Georgia marine sciences professor who wasn't part of the team.


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    Climate Change Up Close: Southern, Poor US Counties to Suffer
    June 29, 2017 - Poor and southern U.S. counties will get hit hardest by global warming, according to a first-of-its-kind detailed projection of potential climate change effects at the local level.
    The study, published Thursday in the journal Science, calculates probable economic harms and benefits for the more than 3,100 counties in the United States under different possible scenarios for worldwide emissions of heat-trapping gases. It looks at agriculture, energy costs, labor costs, coastal damage from rising seas, crime and deaths, then estimates the effect on average local income by the end of the century. Researchers computed the possible effects of 15 types of impacts for each county across 29,000 simulations.



    Texas State Park police officer Thomas Bigham walks across the cracked lake bed of O.C. Fisher Lake, in San Angelo, Texas


    "The south gets hammered and the north can actually benefit," said study lead author Solomon Hsiang, a University of California economist. "The south gets hammered primarily because it's super-hot already. It just so happens that the south is also poorer." The southern part of the nation's heartland — such as Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kentucky and southern Illinois — also feels the heat hard, he said. Michigan, Minnesota, the far northeast, the northwest and mountainous areas benefit the most.


    Counties hit hardest


    The county hit hardest if greenhouse gas emissions continue unabated is tiny and impoverished Union County in Florida, where median income would take a 28 percent hit. And among counties with at least 500,000 people, Polk County in central Florida would suffer the most, with damages of more than 17 percent of income. Seven of the 10 counties with the highest percentage of projected county income losses from climate change are in Florida, along with two in Texas and one in Georgia. Half of these are among the poorest counties in the country.



    A woman wipes her face with a cold wet towel to cool off while working outside in Las Vegas


    Seven of the 10 counties with the highest percentage of projected county income losses from climate change are in Florida, along with two in Texas and one in Georgia. Half of these are among the poorest counties in the country. Five of the 10 counties that would benefit the most from global warming are in Michigan. The others are in Alaska, Colorado, Nevada and the mountainous region of North Carolina. Mineral County in Nevada would see a 13 percent increase in income, while Tacoma, Washington's Pierce County would benefit by about 2 percent, the most among counties with a population of more than 500,000.


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    Researchers to See How Much Carbon Dioxide Forests Can Take
    June 21, 2017 — Researchers at a British University have embarked on a decade-long experiment that will pump a forest full of carbon dioxide to measure how it copes with rising levels of the gas, a key driver of climate change.
    The Free Air Carbon Dioxide Enrichment (FACE) experiment at the University of Birmingham’s Institute of Forest Research (BIFoR) will expose a fenced-off section of mature woodland in Norbury Park in Staffordshire, West Midlands, to levels of CO2 that experts predict will be prevalent in 2050. Scientists aim to measure the forest’s capacity to capture carbon released by fossil fuel burning, and answer questions about their capacity to absorb carbon pollution long-term. “[Forests] happily take a bit more CO2 because that’s their main nutrient. But we don’t know how much more and whether they can do that indefinitely,” BIFoR co-director Michael Tausz told Reuters.


    Carbon dioxide record


    The apparatus for the experiment consists of a series of masts built into six 30-meter-wide sections of woodland, reaching up about 25 meters into the forest canopy. Concentrated CO2 is fed through pipes to the top of the masts where it is pumped into the foliage.



    A project in Washington state is ensuring that forest land remains intact around Mount Rainier National Park, so the trees can continue to grow and store carbon dioxide emissions. In England, researchers are testing how much carbon dioxide trees can take.



    Last year the U.N World Meteorological Organization (WMO) announced that the global average of carbon dioxide, the main man-made greenhouse gas, reached 400 parts per million (ppm) in the atmosphere for the first time on record. “The forest here sees nearly 40 percent more CO2 than it sees normally, because that’s what it will be globally in about 2050; a value of 550 parts per million, compared to 400 parts per million now,” Tausz said.


    Deforestation


    With deforestation shrinking the carbon storage capacity of the world’s forests, researchers hope that a greater understanding of their role in climate change mitigation could help policymakers make informed decisions. “We could get a clear idea of whether they can keep helping us into the future by sucking up more CO2,” Tausz said. The remainder of the Norbury Park woodland is open to the public and will not be affected by the experiment.


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    Much of South Asia Could Be Too Hot to Live in by 2100...

    Study: Just going outdoors could become deadly in South Asia
    Aug 2,`17 -- Venturing outdoors may become deadly across wide swaths of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh by the end of the century as climate change drives heat and humidity to new extremes, according to a new study.
    These conditions could affect up to a third of the people living throughout the Indo-Gangetic Plain unless the global community ramps up efforts to rein in climate-warming carbon emissions. Today, that vast region is home to some 1.5 billion people. "The most intense hazard from extreme future heat waves is concentrated around the densely populated agricultural regions of the Ganges and Indus river basins," wrote the authors of the study, led by former MIT research scientist Eun-Soon Im, now an assistant professor at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. While most climate studies have been based on temperature projections alone, this one - published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances - also considers humidity as well as the body's ability to cool down in response.


    Those three factors together make up what is called a "wet-bulb temperature," which is the air temperature taken when a wet cloth is wrapped around the thermometer. It is always lower than the dry-bulb temperature - how much so depends on the humidity. It can help estimate how easy it is for water to evaporate. It can also offer a gauge for where climate change might become dangerous. Scientists say humans can survive a wet-bulb temperature of up to about 35 degrees Celsius (95 degrees Fahrenheit), beyond which the human body has difficulty sweating to cool down, or sweat doesn't evaporate, leading to heat stroke and ultimately death within just a few hours - even in shaded, ventilated conditions.



    Indian women walk home after collecting drinking water from a well at Mengal Pada in Thane district in Maharashtra state, India. A new study suggests wide swaths of northern India, southern Pakistan and parts of Bangladesh may become so hot and humid by the end of the century it will be deadly just being outdoors. Such conditions would threaten up to a third of the 1.5 billion people living in those regions, unless the global community can rein in climate-warming carbon emissions.


    So far, wet bulb temperatures have rarely exceeded 31 C (88-90 degrees F), a level that is already considered extremely hazardous. "It is hard to imagine conditions that are too hot for people to survive for a more than a few minutes, but that is exactly what is being discussed in this paper," said Stanford University climate scientist Chris Field, who was not involved in the study. "And of course, the danger threshold for punishing heat and humidity is lower for people who are ill or elderly." Most of those at risk in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are poor farmworkers or outdoor construction laborers. They are unlikely to have air conditioners - up to 25 percent in of India's population still has no access to electricity. In some areas that have been deforested for industry or agriculture, they may not even have very much shade. "What we see in this study is a convergence of intense weather projections and acute vulnerability," co-author and MIT environmental engineering professor Elfatih A.B. Eltahir said.


    For the study, the researchers carried out computer simulations using global atmospheric circulation models under two scenarios - one in which the world comes close to meeting its goal of curbing emissions to limit Earth's average temperature rise to 2 degrees C (3.6 degrees F) above pre-industrial levels, and one if it continues emitting at current levels. Both scenarios play out dangerously for South Asia. But with no limit on global warming, about 30 percent of the region could see dangerous wet bulb temperatures above 31 degrees C (88 degrees F) on a regular basis within just a few decades. That's nearly half a billion people by today's population levels, though the full scale could change as the population grows. Meanwhile, 4 percent of the population - or 60 million in today's population - would face deadly highs at or above 35 degrees C (95 degrees F) by 2100. But if the world can limit global warming, that risk exposure declines drastically. About 2 percent of the population would face average wet bulb temperatures of 31 degrees C (88 degrees F) or higher. "This is an avoidable, preventable problem," Eltahir said. "There is a significant difference between these two scenarios, which people need to understand."


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    Scientists: Much of South Asia Could Be Too Hot to Live in by 2100
    August 02, 2017 — Climate change could make much of South Asia, home to a fifth of the world's population, too hot for human survival by the end of this century, scientists warned Wednesday.
    If climate change continues at its current pace, deadly heat waves beginning in the next few decades will strike parts of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, according to a study based on computer simulations by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Key agricultural areas in the Indus and Ganges river basins will be hit particularly hard, reducing crop yields and increasing hunger in some of the world's most densely populated regions, researchers said. "Climate change is not an abstract concept. It is impacting huge numbers of vulnerable people," MIT professor Elfatih Eltahir told the Thomson Reuters Foundation. "Business as usual runs the risk of having extremely lethal heat waves."



    A Shiite Muslim man receives a spray of cold water to avoid heat during the Shiite Youm Ali procession in Karachi, Pakistan



    The areas likely to be worst affected in northern India, southern Pakistan and Bangladesh are home to 1.5 billion people, said Eltahir, the study's co-author. Currently, about 2 percent of India's population is sometimes exposed to extreme combinations of heat and humidity; by 2100 that will increase to about 70 percent if nothing is done to mitigate climate change, the study said. Heat waves across South Asia in the summer of 2015 killed an estimated 3,500 people, and similar events will become more frequent and intense, researchers said.


    Persian Gulf


    Projections show the Persian Gulf region will be the world's hottest region by 2100 as a result of climate change. But with small, wealthy populations and minimal domestic food production requirements, oil-rich states in the Gulf will be better able to respond to rising heat than countries in South Asia, Eltahir said. The study does not directly address migration, but researchers said it is likely that millions of people in South Asia will be forced to move because of blistering temperatures and crop failures unless steps are taken to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.


    Disaster experts from South Asian countries met in Pakistan last month to launch a toolkit to help city governments develop ways to manage the impact of heat waves in urban areas. Ahmedabad, in western India, has already introduced a heat action plan — South Asia's first early-warning system against extreme heat waves. Authorities in the city of 5.5 million have mapped areas with vulnerable populations and set up "cooling spaces" in temples, public buildings and malls during the summer.


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    Yeah, Uncle Ferd remembhers when it was too hot to cut the grass - so he let Granny cut it...

    Global Study Says 2016 Was Warmest Year on Record
    August 10, 2017 - The U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says 2016 surpassed 2015 as the warmest year on record, citing the combined influence of long-term global warming and an unusually strong El Niño weather pattern.
    The agency's annual report, released Thursday, was based on contributions from nearly 500 scientists from more than 60 nations. NOAA said the report took into account tens of thousands of measurements from independent data sets, reflecting global climate indicators, notable weather events, and measurements of greenhouse gas emissions, sea level, ocean salinity, snow cover and sea ice. The State of the Climate report said 2016 was the third consecutive year of record global warmth. Global warmth records have been kept for the past 136 years. Greenhouse gases were found to be the highest on record, and the current level, 402.9 parts per million, surpassed 400 parts per million for the first time in the modern atmospheric measurement record as well as in ice core records dating back as far as 800,000 years. It was also the largest annual increase observed in the 58 years since such measurements have been kept.


    The sun rises on a "ghost forest" near the Savannah River in Port Wentworth, Ga. Rising sea levels are killing trees along vast swaths of the North American coast by inundating them in saltwater. The dead trees in what used to be thriving freshwater coastal environments are called “ghost forests” by researchers.

    The report also said the global surface temperature observed was the highest on record last year, aided by the strong El Niño early in the year. The temperature of the region of the atmosphere just above the Earth's surface, known as the troposphere, was also the highest on record, as was the global average for the surface of the sea. Global sea level was also the highest on record, at 82 millimeters higher than the average in 1993, when records began to be recorded with the current method. The report said 2016 was the sixth consecutive year in which the global sea level increased compared with the previous year. The report also said a warming trend was continuing in the Arctic, and the Antarctic saw a new record low in the extent of sea ice coverage.

    Story on draft report

    The report came out just days after The New York Times published a draft U.S. government report on climate, which said that the average temperature in the United States had risen rapidly and drastically since 1980, and that recent decades had been the warmest in the past 1,500 years. The draft report was compiled by scientists at 13 federal agencies and concluded that Americans were already starting to feel the result of climate change, despite expectations that the change would not be felt for several more decades. The draft report directly contradicted claims by the Trump administration that the contribution of human activity to climate change is uncertain and unpredictable.


    Sea ice melts on the Franklin Strait along the Northwest Passage in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago, July 22, 2017. Because of climate change, more sea ice is being lost each summer than is being replenished in winters. Less sea ice coverage also means that less sunlight will be reflected off the surface of the ocean in a process known as the albedo effect. The oceans will absorb more heat, further fueling global warming.


    The report was leaked online in January but received little notice until the Times published the findings this week. Scientists have expressed fear that the Trump administration might try to suppress the findings since they contradict the stated positions of top U.S. officials, including Scott Pruitt, administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Pruitt has said repeatedly that he does not believe human activity plays a large role in climate change. The authors of the leaked study disagree with that stance, writing in the report: "Many lines of evidence demonstrate that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases, are primarily responsible for recent observed climate change." That report is a special section of the National Climate Assessment and is published every four years. The National Academy of Sciences has approved the study, and authors are now waiting on the Trump administration to give the approval for its release.

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    Granny says, "Dat's right - we all gonna fry like a frog inna kettle...

    Global warming outpacing forecasts
    Fri, Dec 08, 2017 - BIGGER CHALLENGE: By tracking how much sunlight gets bounced back into space, the study showed that the more alarming projections are clearly aligned with that data
    The UN’s forecast for global warming is about 15 percent too low, which means end-of-the-century temperatures could be 0.5?C higher than previously predicted, a study released on Wednesday said. The prediction makes the already daunting challenge of capping global warming at “well under” 2?C — the cornerstone goal of the 196-nation Paris Agreement — all the more difficult, the authors said. “Our results suggest that achieving any given global temperature stabilization target will require steeper greenhouse gas emissions reductions than previously calculated,” they wrote. A half-degree increase on the thermometer could translate into devastating consequences. With only 1?C of global warming so far, the planet has already seen a crescendo of deadly droughts, heatwaves and super storms engorged by rising seas.

    The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which provides the scientific foundation for global climate policy, projects an increase in the Earth’s average surface temperature of about 4.5?C by 2100 if carbon pollution continues unabated, but there is a very large range of uncertainty — 3.2?C to 5.9?C — around that figure, reflecting different assumptions and methods in the dozens of climate models the panel takes into account. “The primary goal of our study was to narrow this range of uncertainty and to assess whether the upper or lower end is more likely,” said lead author Patrick Brown, a researcher at the Carnegie Institution for Science at Stanford University in California. By factoring in decades of satellite observations which track how much sunlight gets bounced back into space, the study showed that the more alarming projections are clearly aligned with that data and the warming that has been measured so far. “Our findings eliminate the lower end of this range,” Brown said. “The most likely warming is about 0.5?C greater than what the raw model results suggest.”

    One scientist not involved in the research described it as a “step-change advance” in the understanding of how hot our planet is likely to become. “We are now more certain about the future climate, but the bad news is that it will be warmer than we thought,” University of Reading professor of meteorology William Collins said. The study, published in the journal Nature, not only narrows the temperature range, but reduces the degree of uncertainty as well. “If emissions follow a commonly used ‘business as usual’ scenario, there is a 93 percent chance that global warming will exceed 4?C by century’s end,” coauthor Ken Caldeira said.

    Up to now, there was barely more than a coin-toss certainty that the Earth would breach the 4?C barrier by 2100 under that story line, but even if one assumes a more optimistic future in which humanity rapidly accelerates the global economy’s transition from “brown” to “green” energy, the findings still apply, the authors said. “We should expect greater warming than previously calculated for any given emissions scenario,” they wrote. Brown and Caldeira “have checked and corrected all the models, revealing they underestimated potential warming by up to 15 percent” City, University of London climatologist Mark Maslin said. “This means international action to keep global temperature below 2?C, or even 1.5?C [an aspirational goal in the Paris Agreement], will require cutting carbon emissions deeper and faster.”

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    Granny says, "Dat's right - we all gonna fry like a frog inna kettle...

    Global warming outpacing forecasts
    Fri, Dec 08, 2017 - BIGGER CHALLENGE: By tracking how much sunlight gets bounced back into space, the study showed that the more alarming projections are clearly aligned with that data
    If you really care about the environment then stop reproducing kids and tell your friends.

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    http://www.globalclimatescam.com/opi...ange-is-a-hoax/

    Article: Top 10 reasons climate change is a hoax

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    When the cycle inevitably swings back to extreme cold and the glaciers begin to cover the northern half of our continent we won't be able to pump enough green house gas into the atmosphere to stop it. We will adapt or we will die. I lean towards thinking we will adapt and we're way better suited for it than the cave men were. The last warming period is what allowed us to go from cave men to the technological society we are today. And no matter what we do this planet will eventually be destroyed or rendered unlivable by nature itself from forces outside of our planet or solar system. We will have to travel to other solar systems to survive.


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