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    President Nixon Deserves Respect

    let us Not Forget Nixon pulled us out of Vietnam,under Nixon Unemployement was around 5.5 % Nixon did not do a Bad Job. his only crime was Lying, he was not trying to Fundementally Change us we do not need to be changed, we need Jobs . we need freedom,
    we need our Constitution Respected.i will Take Richard Nixon over Carter, or Obama everyday
    and twice on Sunday.now Nixon did take us off Gold Standard Partially, Carter took us the Rest of the way off. Ronald Reagans America http://elvisroy0000city.blogspot.com/

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    let us Not Forget Nixon pulled us out of Vietnam
    Yes he did.

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    So under your own standards,

    Presidents who pull our troops out from War deserve Respect?
    Presidents who don't lie to put our troops into War deserve Respect?

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    Was it right for him to lie, no. It was time to bring our troops home and I am glad he did.

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    Obama should also bring all troops home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    So under your own standards,

    Presidents who pull our troops out from War deserve Respect?
    Presidents who don't lie to put our troops into War deserve Respect?
    I don't believe Roosevelt actually lied to get us in WWII
    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    Of course he did. Lies of omission. The vast majority of Americans wanted nothing to do with anther European war. (Asia was an after thought). FDR ran as anti war. As WWII increased, FDR knew that he wanted in. But Americans did not. He did all sorts of things to cause war, the biggest was cutting off American flow of oil to Japan. That set the stage for Pearl Harbor. FDR knew he was pushing Japan into war; he didn't know the specifics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elvisroy0000 View Post
    let us Not Forget Nixon pulled us out of Vietnam,under Nixon Unemployement was around 5.5 % Nixon did not do a Bad Job. his only crime was Lying, he was not trying to Fundementally Change us we do not need to be changed, we need Jobs . we need freedom,
    we need our Constitution Respected.i will Take Richard Nixon over Carter, or Obama everyday
    and twice on Sunday.now Nixon did take us off Gold Standard Partially, Carter took us the Rest of the way off. Ronald Reagans America http://elvisroy0000city.blogspot.com/


    Interesting in the historical aspect that someone, obviously of a generation that was not alive at the time, would, based on historical information support Nixon over Obama...

    His only crime was lying?

    No that was the only crime on which he was nailed. He lied under oath.

    There is more than prima face evidence that Nixon approved hush money to the Watergate burglars which is fraud, obstruction of justice and bad manners, that he conspired to obstruct justice by counseling others to lie, that he committed fraud and conspired in advance of the Watergate Break in, destroyed evidence and was ugly in a public place.

    In short, enough criminal behavior to do serious time, perhaps life.

    Yeah, he got the US out of Nam, too little too late and left the people of South Vietnam to suffer and die at the hands of the communists.

    Obama won't pull out of Afghanistan for that reason. he didn't start it and he doesn't want to be nailed as the guy who bailed on the democratic people's republic of Afghanistan or whatever they are calling themselves these days..


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    The Watergate "burglars" had to go back several times and act more and more incompletely just to get caught.... They were professionals, just not profession burglars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Of course he did. Lies of omission. The vast majority of Americans wanted nothing to do with anther European war. (Asia was an after thought). FDR ran as anti war. As WWII increased, FDR knew that he wanted in. But Americans did not. He did all sorts of things to cause war, the biggest was cutting off American flow of oil to Japan. That set the stage for Pearl Harbor. FDR knew he was pushing Japan into war; he didn't know the specifics.
    You are absolutely right about that. Just prior to Pearl Harbor the American people were divided 50/50 on the war. In fact as many people wanted into the war against Britain as did those who wanted a war against Germany.

    The oil embargo was seen at the time as an "act of war", where the Japanese screwed up was that did not force the Americans use military force to support it...and thus is give them cause.


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