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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    I don't believe anyone should have to apply for a license to conduct private business between willing parties. Said private business would be open to the general public, minus anyone the business owner does not want to do business, for any reason whatsoever. Of course, since I support equality, the potential customers would also have the right refrain from conducting business with said establishment, for any reason whatsoever.

    The public marketplace is just a group of private citizens voluntarily doing business with each other. Why should those private individuals give up their right to free association?
    Then don't live in a municipality, because if a municipality allows a free for all, it becomes legally liable. Its very existence involves legal undertakings both to the state and to its own taxpayers.
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    Should businesses be "forced" by the government to ensure the safety and cleanliness of food that they sell to their customers? Why?

    Should someone doing business as an auto mechanic, or a doctor, or an investment banker have to prove to anyone that they are at least marginally qualified to perform the service they propose to sell to the public? Why?

    Should a business owner be required to maintain his property in such a condition that there is no imminent risk of it falling or burning down, or blowing up, with customers inside? Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Then don't live in a municipality, because if a municipality allows a free for all, it becomes legally liable. Its very existence involves legal undertakings both to the state and to its own taxpayers.
    I live where I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Should businesses be "forced" by the government to ensure the safety and cleanliness of food that they sell to their customers? Why?
    Nope. It's the customer's responsibility to ensure they are getting what they're paying for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Should someone doing business as an auto mechanic, or a doctor, or an investment banker have to prove to anyone that they are at least marginally qualified to perform the service they propose to sell to the public? Why?
    Nope. It's the customer's responsibility to ensure they are getting what they're paying for.
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    Should a business owner be required to maintain his property in such a condition that there is no imminent risk of it falling or burning down, or blowing up, with customers inside? Why?
    Nope. It's the customer's choice to enter or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    Nope. It's the customer's responsibility to ensure they are getting what they're paying for.

    Nope. It's the customer's responsibility to ensure they are getting what they're paying for.

    Nope. It's the customer's choice to enter or not.
    I honestly don't mean to be insulting, K...but I really have to question your age, education and experience in the real world, in this instance. Again, I'm not trying to insult you as a substitute for disputing your opinion - I'm not. I'm just wondering if you've given any serious thought to what it would be like to live in a country where there is virtually no official oversight over who could advertise to, say, perform surgery or fix a car or treat a sick pet (or child), and no criminal sanctions - one would assume - for doing, or attempting to do, any of those things, regardless of the consequences. I don't think "chaos" is adequate to describe that sort of scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I honestly don't mean to be insulting, K...but I really have to question your age, education and experience in the real world, in this instance.
    I don't generally give out personal info, but I'll give you this: 50 years old with a 138 IQ.
    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I'm just wondering if you've given any serious thought to what it would be like to live in a country where there is virtually no official oversight over who could advertise to, say, perform surgery or fix a car or treat a sick pet (or child), and no criminal sanctions - one would assume - for doing, or attempting to do, any of those things, regardless of the consequences. I don't think "chaos" is adequate to describe that sort of scenario.
    I advocate the extreme position because I'm willing to compromise. If I took the middle ground, a compromise with the left would be a left-of-center solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    I don't generally give out personal info, but I'll give you this: 50 years old with a 138 IQ.

    I advocate the extreme position because I'm willing to compromise. If I took the middle ground, a compromise with the left would be a left-of-center solution.
    Nobody on the interwebs has an IQ under 130 or a $#@! smaller than 7 inches silly. Everyone knows that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    Nope. It's the customer's responsibility to ensure they are getting what they're paying for.

    Nope. It's the customer's responsibility to ensure they are getting what they're paying for.

    Nope. It's the customer's choice to enter or not.


    I would only add that society is capable of dealing with these issues privately in private arbitration and private courts, and in fact does. Most of the issues listed are insurance issues, that you negotiate with your insurance company and your insurance company with the other guy's. It rare that those lawyers who advertize gazillion dollor wins ever get these cases to court, where, more often than not, the lawyers haggle out an agreement among parties that the judge signs off on. The government's too corrupt to be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
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    I advocate the extreme position because I'm willing to compromise. If I took the middle ground, a compromise with the left would be a left-of-center solution.
    Which is why the country keeps shifting left led by the politicians we have.

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