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Thread: Trump Nominates Actual Fascist David Clarke for Department of Homeland Security

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-4 View Post
    Oh God - please tell me this isn't true.

    Doesn't look like a position requiring confirmation either - God help us

    If this is an actual quote from the guy then he's earned a point with me.

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    Clarke is a total nut job who wanted Obama to imprison millions of Americans at Guantanamo.


    Trump has a history of hiring the most incompetent people for the job.
    I have a big cook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Calling him a fascist is a misuse of an actual English word.

    Par for the course.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    1. I didn't write the headline. I did offer a link.
    2. The author's use of the term is more accurate than your laughable "communism = fascism."
    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    This is so funny. It's like Democrats have been wearing blinders until Trump was elected.

    They don't have a clue...

    Where was all the outrage when Obama signed the NDAA law into effect? The ACLU was paying attention, but Obama's minions weren't.

    If, by the OP author's definition, Clarke is a fascist -- he's only following on the heels of Obama's fascism.

    https://www.aclu.org/news/president-...ntion-bill-law

    Wake up liberals.
    Smell the pile of dog $#@! you're standing in.


    What's funny is bethere pushes blame off on the author and then defends him.

    What's also funny is the author's definition of facist.

    Words like fascist and authoritarian get thrown around too promiscuously. But there is no other way to describe David Clarke, who today announced that he was named assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. (The Department has not confirmed Clarke’s appointment.) Clarke occupies the extremist, anti-democratic fringe of far-right officials, even by the standards of the Trump administration.
    Admits it's "promiscuous" but uses it anyhow. Defines as "extremist, anti-democratic fringe of far-right."

    Fascists view politics as an inevitably violent struggle in which normal bargaining and compromise are impossible.
    Huh? He's getting silly now. I think he just uses as an emotive pejorative, to rally the troops and rile the oppoenets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    Tell me this guy doesn't sound like one of our posters here at tPF.

    Trump is dangerous. He empowers people who are even more fringe and dangerous than he is.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...ke-actual.html

    In his book, Clarke proposes that the Department of Homeland Security — the department that he has been nominated to serve — assume police-state powers to round up internal enemies. “I suggest that our commander in chief ought to utilize Article I, Section 9 and take all of these individuals that are suspected, these ones on the internet spewing jihadi rhetoric … to scoop them up, charge them with treason and, under habeas corpus, detain them indefinitely at Gitmo,” he writes. Clarke estimates that the number of people to be rounded up in such fashion runs into “hundreds of thousands,” or “maybe a million.” Clarke is clear in his belief that the legal principles that have served as a bedrock against state abuse for centuries should be discarded. He would “hold them indefinitely under a suspension of habeas corpus” because “[b]old and aggressive action is needed.”

    This is igoing to be hilarious.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    If this is an actual quote from the guy then he's earned a point with me.
    I knew that you would like him.
    "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    What's funny is bethere pushes blame off on the author and then defends him.

    What's also funny is the author's definition of facist.



    Admits it's "promiscuous" but uses it anyhow. Defines as "extremist, anti-democratic fringe of far-right."



    Huh? He's getting silly now. I think he just uses as an emotive pejorative, to rally the troops and rile the oppoenets.
    Ranking the author above you was hardly a spirited defense.
    "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    I knew that you would like him.
    Gosh - how did you know?



    Good times!
    Fascism begins with a central argument that the world is broken .. everything is a mess -Unknown

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    This guy is nuts. He wants to suspend habeus corpus for hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans and imprison them indefinitely. And from what I can tell, he ran his prison like a Soviet gulag. Honestly, calling him a "fascist" seems like an understatement.
    Two things awe me most, the starry sky above me and the moral law within me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    This guy is nuts. He wants to suspend habeus corpus for hundreds of thousands if not millions of Americans and imprison them indefinitely. And from what I can tell, he ran his prison like a Soviet gulag. Honestly, calling him a "fascist" seems like an understatement.

    A regular Lincoln.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    Ranking the author above you was hardly a spirited defense.
    Try reading.

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