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    McGovern & Binney: Trump Versus Deep State

    Veteran CIA analyst, Ray McGovern, and former NSA technical director, William Binney, talk about Trump's battle with the deep state:

    Trumped-up claims against Trump

    he Washington establishment rejoiced last week over what seemed to be a windfall "gotcha" moment, as President Donald Trump said he had fired FBI Director James Comey over "this Russia thing, with Trump and Russia." The president labeled it a "made-up story" and, by all appearances, he is mostly correct.

    A few days before his firing, Mr. Comey reportedly had asked for still more resources to hunt the Russian bear. Pundit piranhas swarmed to charge Mr. Trump with trying to thwart the investigation into how the Russians supposedly "interfered" to help him win the election.

    But can that commentary bear close scrutiny, or is it the "phony narrative" Senate Republican Whip John Cornyn of Texas claims it to be? Mr. Cornyn has quipped that, if impeding the investigation was Mr. Trump's aim, "This strikes me as a lousy way to do it. All it does is heighten the attention given to the issue."

    Truth is, President Trump had ample reason to be fed up with Mr. Comey, in part for his lack of enthusiasm to investigate actual, provable crimes related to "Russia-gate" — like leaking information from highly sensitive intercepted communications to precipitate the demise of Trump aide Michael Flynn. Mr. Flynn was caught "red-handed," so to speak, talking with Russia's ambassador last December. (In our experience, finding the culprit for that leak should not be very difficult; we suspect Mr. Comey already knows who was responsible.)

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    Kind of hard to dismiss two veteran intelligence officials as fringe kooks, although I'm sure some will try.

    Let the smears and denials begin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Veteran CIA analyst, Ray McGovern, and former NSA technical director, William Binney, talk about Trump's battle with the deep state:



    Kind of hard to dismiss two veteran intelligence officials as fringe kooks, although I'm sure some will try.

    Let the smears and denials begin.
    The smarter progressives hint here and there that this is just "pay back". Never mind what that suggests about the state of American politics. My point is that anyone who genuinely believes Trump is a Russian puppet is a genuine idiot. Of course as thee idiots acquire a sense of embarrassment they will all pretend to have been among the former group.

    Anyway, interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The smarter progressives hint here and there that this is just "pay back". Never mind what that suggests about the state of American politics. My point is that anyone who genuinely believes Trump is a Russian puppet is a genuine idiot. Of course as thee idiots acquire a sense of embarrassment they will all pretend to have been among the former group.

    Anyway, interesting.
    Yea, they love democracy until it creates results they don't like, then they throw it out the window. Totally unprincipled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, they love democracy until it creates results they don't like, then they throw it out the window. Totally unprincipled.
    Now watch what happens. The same people who think Trump was aided in some mystical way by the Russians will tell you "deep state" is a kook fringe conspiracy theory.
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    The silence is deafening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The silence is deafening.
    But not unexpected.
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