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    Proud to be an American

    Time spent standing in line to vote - 2 hrs
    Time filling out ballot- 5 min
    Knowing I live in a country that allows me to vote - Priceless

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    Lets make sure EVERYONE can vote.


    The right candidates win when that happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by patlape View Post
    Time spent standing in line to vote - 2 hrs
    Time filling out ballot- 5 min
    Knowing I live in a country that allows me to vote - Priceless
    I am sorry you do not live in a nation which allows you to vote.

    I"m sorry but I must take issue with the OP here ladies and gentlemen.

    Whether intended or not. I take offense when I see such sentiments expressed as "Knowing I live in a country that allows me to vote".

    It is not a "privilege" to vote.

    We are not "allowed by government to vote".

    The right to vote, is a God given right, which is endowed upon us, it is inherent to all free men and women, merely by virtue of the fact that they are human beings.

    It is a right, it is not a privilege which is either "allowed" or not "allowed" by government.

    And it is a right, which while endowed to us by our creator as free human beings, it is also a right which has been secured for us time and time again, with the blood and sacrifice of many, many, countless thousands of Americans throughout the decades and centuries.

    So while yes, I will agree that it is priceless, as are all our rights.

    We are allowed nothing by government.

    Indeed if it were a matter of being allowed a right to vote, given that most of human governments are despotic, tyrannies, you would have no right to vote.

    As history shows us that government will invariably seek to deny the citizen the exercise of any given right, particularly in a system where the exercise of a right is "allowed" or "disallowed" by government, the instant it becomes no longer convenient for government to allow the exercise of said rights.
    Last edited by JohnAdams; 11-06-2012 at 12:55 PM.
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religiouspeople. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. ~Still waiting to see one of you liberals demonstrate that "separation of church and state" is a concept that is actually enumerated in our Constitution.

    And not just a liberal activist, legislate from the bench, fabrication.

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    Voting isn't a Religious matter, haven't you heard of separation of church and state? It is a privilege given to us by living in America, and we are very lucky to be able to do so.

    Be thankful for that, but don't bring God into it.
    Dear Santa,

    I want a zombie bunker that will withstand the inevitable collapse of our nation's corrupt leadership, the dark cabal the commands them, and the morons that make most of my countrymen.

    -Cthulhu

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Lets make sure EVERYONE can vote.


    The right candidates win when that happens
    Every person who is LEGAL to vote should vote.

    The "right" candidate will win (sorry couldn't resist)
    NZ only needs two more letters to become NAZI. Think about it. -Conley

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    the right candidate is not the one who is proposing using historically failed ideas yet again

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAdams View Post
    I am sorry you do not live in a nation which allows you to vote.

    I"m sorry but I must take issue with the OP here ladies and gentlemen.

    Whether intended or not. I take offense when I see such sentiments expressed as "Knowing I live in a country that allows me to vote".

    It is not a "privilege" to vote.

    We are not "allowed by government to vote".

    The right to vote, is a God given right, which is endowed upon us, it is inherent to all free men and women, merely by virtue of the fact that they are human beings.

    It is a right, it is not a privilege which is either "allowed" or not "allowed" by government.

    And it is a right, which while endowed to us by our creator as free human beings, it is also a right which has been secured for us time and time again, with the blood and sacrifice of many, many, countless thousands of Americans throughout the decades and centuries.

    So while yes, I will agree that it is priceless, as are all our rights.

    We are allowed nothing by government.

    Indeed if it were a matter of being allowed a right to vote, given that most of human governments are despotic, tyrannies, you would have no right to vote.

    As history shows us that government will invariably seek to deny the citizen the exercise of any given right, particularly in a system where the exercise of a right is "allowed" or "disallowed" by government, the instant it becomes no longer convenient for government to allow the exercise of said rights.
    JohnAdams I believe we may be arguing semantics at this point. My intent, regardless of how it was read, was to express my thankfulness of being an American where my vote counts for something. There are many countries where people have no choice. I am blessed not to be there. There are many countries that people “vote” in that is for nothing (Russia, Iran, Egypt, Libya) I am thankful I am not there. I pray America never comes to that point and strongly believe that neither Liberals nor Conservatives would ever allow that to happen.
    Thank you for your response none the less.
    PL

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    Republicans have cheated in elections for decades and that is court documented

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Lets make sure EVERYONE can vote.


    The right candidates win when that happens
    Even the military or just dead people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Republicans have cheated in elections for decades and that is court documented
    Lying again, Truthdoesn'tmatter. The Democrats are proud of their skill at cheating. I sincerely hope you're married to a Democrat.

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