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    How Long Before The "Union" Descends Into Violence?

    It seems clear to me that the "union" is, once again, coming apart at the seams.

    You have a variety of competing factions, increasingly hateful and disdainful of one another, vying for control of a political system that largely determines the distribution of power and wealth in American society. If history is any indication, this presages violent conflict.

    And in the interim, we will see endless bickering, fighting, intrigue, corruption, obstructionism, and bastardized compromises that leave one or all sides feeling resentful and cheated.

    Clearly, this is not sustainable as long as people refuse to be dominated by their rivals and enemies. Eventually, something has to give.

    My question is: How long do you think it will be before the various political factions in America dispense with all the pretenses and resort to violence as a means of resolving their conflicts? Are we already in the nascent stages of such a conflict? I mean, look at the quality of discourse on this political forum. People just keep talking past each other and lobbing insults at one another while becoming increasingly insular and cliquish. And it's not like this is unique to our little corner of the internet. US politics at large is a complete madhouse. There have even been violent clashes between opposing political mobs in the streets. That's usually how it begins.

    All the rhetorical fluff about "coming together" and "we have more similarities than differences" is largely a Utopian pipe-dream that ignores the gritty realities of culture and ideology. Unity purely for its own sake is a dangerous fantasy that has never worked in any practical sense of the word. Those pushing it are, whether they realize it or not, pushing people towards conflict, despite having the best of intentions.
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    I said in a recent thread that I never believed the divide in the country would be permanent, now I do. I dont think anything or anyone can repair this.

    Will there be retaliatory violence ? I hope not, but if the left escalates the violence and their violent rhetoric much higher, there very well could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It seems clear to me that the "union" is, once again, coming apart at the seams.

    You have a variety of competing factions, increasingly hateful and disdainful of one another, vying for control of a political system that largely determines the distribution of power and wealth in American society. If history is any indication, this presages violent conflict.

    And in the interim, we will see endless bickering, fighting, intrigue, corruption, obstructionism, and bastardized compromises that leave one or all sides feeling resentful and cheated.

    Clearly, this is not sustainable as long as people refuse to be dominated by their rivals and enemies. Eventually, something has to give.

    My question is: How long do you think it will be before the various political factions in America dispense with all the pretenses and resort to violence as a means of resolving their conflicts? Are we already in the nascent stages of such a conflict? I mean, look at the quality of discourse on this political forum. People just keep talking past each other and lobbing insults at one another while becoming increasingly insular and cliquish. And it's not like this is unique to our little corner of the internet. US politics at large is a complete madhouse. There have even been violent clashes between opposing political mobs in the streets. That's usually how it begins.

    All the rhetorical fluff about "coming together" and "we have more similarities than differences" is largely a Utopian pipe-dream that ignores the gritty realities of culture and ideology. Unity purely for its own sake is a dangerous fantasy that has never worked in any practical sense of the word. Those pushing it are, whether they realize it or not, pushing people towards conflict, despite having the best of intentions.
    Look at how many points you have!

    You've eliminated your competition and now you are officially this forum's most popular poster--check your awards.
    Congratulations.

    To address your op? Our union is strong. United we stand. Divided we fall. If it comes to violence you will lose, and 100 years later we will tear down any pathetic monuments you might dedicate to revisionist history.
    Last edited by Bethere; 05-25-2017 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    Look at how many points you have!
    Why did you game the system?You've eliminated your competition and now you are officially this forum's most popular poster--check your awards.
    Congratulations.
    Bo is the spokeshole for the Buffoonkins. Have you run this nonsense by him?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    Look at how many points you have!

    Why did you game the system?

    You've eliminated your competition and now you are officially this forum's most popular poster--check your awards.


    Congratulations.
    Points are earned by participating on the forum.

    Karma can be inflated if you get two or three other members to rep the $#@! out of you so you can fake popularity because you are shallow and have a fragile ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It seems clear to me that the "union" is, once again, coming apart at the seams.

    You have a variety of competing factions, increasingly hateful and disdainful of one another, vying for control of a political system that largely determines the distribution of power and wealth in American society. If history is any indication, this presages violent conflict.

    And in the interim, we will see endless bickering, fighting, intrigue, corruption, obstructionism, and bastardized compromises that leave one or all sides feeling resentful and cheated.

    Clearly, this is not sustainable as long as people refuse to be dominated by their rivals and enemies. Eventually, something has to give.

    My question is: How long do you think it will be before the various political factions in America dispense with all the pretenses and resort to violence as a means of resolving their conflicts? Are we already in the nascent stages of such a conflict? I mean, look at the quality of discourse on this political forum. People just keep talking past each other and lobbing insults at one another while becoming increasingly insular and cliquish. And it's not like this is unique to our little corner of the internet. US politics at large is a complete madhouse. There have even been violent clashes between opposing political mobs in the streets. That's usually how it begins.

    All the rhetorical fluff about "coming together" and "we have more similarities than differences" is largely a Utopian pipe-dream that ignores the gritty realities of culture and ideology. Unity purely for its own sake is a dangerous fantasy that has never worked in any practical sense of the word. Those pushing it are, whether they realize it or not, pushing people towards conflict, despite having the best of intentions.
    I am inclined to believe it takes between 30 and 40 years. We are already beyond the "norm". I don't think we have quite made it. but that will remain unclear until the event that creates the spark. After that plan on a decade of killing.
    Last edited by MisterVeritis; 05-25-2017 at 05:53 PM.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I am inclined to believe it takes between 30 and 40 years. We are already beyond the 'norm". I don't think we have quite made it. but that will remain unclear until the event that creates the spark. After that plan on a decade of killing.
    Good luck.

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    I am inclined to believe it takes between 30 and 40 years. We are already beyond the "norm". I don't think we have quite made it. but that will remain unclear until the event that creates the spark. After that plan on a decade of killing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bethere View Post
    Good luck.
    You damned fool. This is a disaster.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    You damned fool. This is a disaster.
    See you at the top of the hill.

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