Sexy vs. Sexualized: The Difference

[IMPress Polly]

Chris bullshitted:
Is this like the difference between socialism and socialized? Only halfway joking.

If you've got nothing to say, people, then spare me the extra click will you?

[Chris]

If you've got nothing to say, people, then spare me the extra click will you?

@donttread had a point.

[IMPress Polly]

Chris wrote:
donttread had a point.

Will somebody please explain to me what that point was? It sure sounded like a bunch of paranoid double-talk to me. I couldn't make heads or tails of it. It just seemed like nonsensical, whiney BS to me.

[Private Pickle]

I couldn't even decipher what he was trying to say! It sounded like a bunch of paranoid double-talk to me. If you got something coherent out of it and can explain it to me, I'll take the "troll" remark back. Sound fair?

His point was: Sexy is when the woman decides it is. Sexualized is when the woman decides it is. Yet both are predetermined by how a man views it...

[donttread]

There is an outcry that the movie only allowed Female Auditions for the part of Wonder woman. I wonder who started that complaint.

Why "Wonder ?Tranny" of course

[Chris]

His point was: Sexy is when the woman decides it is. Sexualized is when the woman decides it is. Yet both are predetermined by how a man views it...

I took it as sexy is when women use it and sexualized is when men do. It could be their bodies, their sexuality.

[donttread]

What the hell? Go troll somewhere else!



lol, hadn't heard about that!



I heard about that too. The Alamo Drafthouse's women-only screening idea seems to be pretty popular. Certainly a lot more popular than the critiques thereof, to judge by the radical difference in the number of Likes those critiques have gotten versus the number that the theater's sarcastic replies have.

That's not trolling. Actresses, actors , signers use their sexuality to make money all the time and not just women. It's a little sad that we are still as tied to our primal instincts as we are. But we are. Or did you just think that the gene for acting ability and music was 90% tied to the "hot gene" ?
So when an actress dresses like this men will gawk, order posters , make jokes etc. We will see this talented young lady as a sex object because that's how she is presented to us. Period. So will women, but that's supposed to be a secret, right? The snied comments about the other gals skirt being too short at work ? Who really first labels a gal a "$#@!" . Or the way woman talk about men as sex objects when other men aren't around? I worked with women for decades , I know the secrets.
That's part of the problem between "cats and dogs" . A man's sex drive is pretty much always on ready to go. A women's is much more subject to mood, situation, biology, etc.
But we can't tell that if the women present the same all the time.

[Adelaide]

I interpret "sexy" to mean that a person feels attractive and confident, and people respond to that. It could be very different things to different people, but I don't think someone has to show a lot of skin or wear specific types of clothing to be sexy - I think it's the attitude that other people can sense that is appealing.

Otherwise, no comment since I have zero interest in video games.

[donttread]

I took it as sexy is when women use it and sexualized is when men do. It could be their bodies, their sexuality.

Pretty close Chris. But also the point that at the level of celebrity you don't have any control over how men veiw that sexuality once you put it out there. Fame is not free. Polly, I bear you no ill will, I just call em like I see em. See post 17.

[IMPress Polly]

Private Pickle wrote:
His point was: Sexy is when the woman decides it is. Sexualized is when the woman decides it is. Yet both are predetermined by how a man views it...

Okay, I put it to my guy, Matt, and here's what he got out of it, quote:

"As far as I can tell, he seems to think that a woman wanting to look sexually attractive on her own terms means she's trying to gain something and sexualized means ...wait no. Umm. I dunno, this is kinda hard to decipher. It's almost Trumpian in its language. He seems to assume that sexualized means the woman is still in control and is basically the same as sexy, as far as I can tell. Dunno if I'm right there though. That is quite hard to decipher. Okay, so sexy means she's doing it for gain and sexualized means men assuming she's doing it for gain. That appears to be what he's saying? I think? Seems like a misunderstanding of your point."

I provide his remarks just so you know that it was NOT just me. That was objectively a difficult post to decipher.

In any event, okay, whatever. I guess I take the "troll" remark back then. *shrugs*

I still think even your version is BS. I'm distinguishing between contexts where women (or female characters in this case) express ownership of their sexuality versus contexts that promote male control of female bodies. I don't see how there's any double-standard there. That's pretty straightforward. I think he (and you) are just trying to disingenuously fabricate a double-standard in the OP that doesn't exist just so you can have some excuse to object to everything I say because I'm a feminist.

Adelaide wrote:
I interpret "sexy" to mean that a person feels attractive and confident, and people respond to that. It could be very different things to different people, but I don't think someone has to show a lot of skin or wear specific types of clothing to be sexy - I think it's the attitude that other people can sense that is appealing.

THIS is it! That's the idea I'm trying to convey here. I also like that you pointed out that "sexy" does not require revealing clothing or anything like that.