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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I would not be surprised if that was true. I'll concede the point. Santorum did dance on the edge a bit and probably did not communicate his true beliefs on the matter.
    The weird thing is that he was right when he said that states have the right to ban contraception and sodomy, I agree 100%. Should they? Hell no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    The weird thing is that he was right when he said that states have the right to ban contraception and sodomy, I agree 100%. Should they? Hell no.
    Aren't some state sodomy laws still on the books?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Aren't some state sodomy laws still on the books?
    They were struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I think that Peter's point was that, from his perspective, statism is left not right. Therefore, state interference in social matters is inherently leftist.
    May have been his point but statism can be left or right.

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    Related to the topic we were discussing, @Mister D, I have an article on my computer about homosexuality in the interwar period in Czechoslovakia. Even there, sodomy laws were mostly only enforced to take down political enemies. The article I have is about an ethnic German nationalist living in the Sudetenland who was prosecuted for his homoerotic behaviors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If someone wants the government in bedrooms they are statists. Left wing.
    Sorry, but the government wanting to be in people's bedrooms based on religion is NOT left wing, neither is trying to use the Bible as the rule of law.
    Sorry--but I do not accept the idea that being intolerant of intolerance is THE SAME THING as being intolerant of anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    That doesn't reflect the reality of American politics, where traditionalists and neo cons want more state control over sexual behavior.
    ...so what's wrong with decency?...


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    Let me explain why I say "statism can be left or right". First off I don't mean anything related to guns or sex. What I mean when I say both can be statist is with regard to economics. The left tends to advocate central planning largely through taxation to redistribute wealth downward, and the right, when it is statist, tends to advocate central planning largely through regulation to redistribute wealth upward or maintain the status quo. The left seeks trickle up stimuli, the right trickle down. And I should emphasize tends for both sides do both, both engage in crony capitalism where whether you call it corporatism or fascism, power is sucked out of society and into the hands of a few elite rulers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    I remember that D. Not forcing insurance to pay for contraception isn't the same as banning contraception, but liberals suggested it was. However I do know some southern baptists and evangelical Christians that believe that contraception should be illegal.
    ...and because some do you chastise the whole right side?...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    May have been his point but statism can be left or right.
    Haven't you favored a spectrum with individual liberty on the right? Mind you, I'm not taking a side.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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