Anyone looking for a Deal on 9mm compact

[Captain Obvious]

sorry............missed your bus?

The short ones don't wait very long for their taget audience

[Cletus]

Sorry - Fake News ^

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc...t-a-click-away

https://everytownresearch.org/report...heck-required/

http://wwlp.com/2016/01/06/buy-a-gun...kground-check/

Bo, the fact is that under federal law, private sales between individuals are legal. If someone sells a gun over the internet and ships it, unless he is a federal firearms licensee and ships it to another licensee, he is breaking the law.

Regarding background checks... Just this morning, I transferred a firearm to a guy I ran an FBI NICS check on last week. The sale was delayed by the FBI. When the FBI issues a "delay", they have, by law, 3 working days to issue a final determination (Deny or Proceed). If they do not do so, the firearm may be legally transferred by the dealer. So, this guy was issued a "delay". After 3 working days (they don't count weekends or holidays), no final determination was received from the FBI. That meant this guy had to wait 5 days to get his gun. The idea that "no one is inconvenienced" is nonsense. I gave him the gun today with no final determination.

By the way, the guy we are talking about is a law enforcement officer, a criminal investigator the DA's office. I know a guy who was issued a "deny" by the FBI who to this day doesn't know why. They won't tell you. We actually ran an independent criminal history on the guy and except for a traffic citation for an expired license plate, he was completely clean. I know another guy whose only run in with the law was when he was 12. It was a minor offense, he was referred to a program that once completed, was supposed to result in his juvenile record being expunged. Even the judge who handled his case has no idea why, over 20 years later, without so much as a traffic ticket, he is not allowed to legally purchase a firearm for a licensed dealer. This guy was even cleared by the New Mexico Department of Public Safety to get a Concealed Handgun License and to work as an armed guard (Security is a heavily regulated industry in New Mexico).

The NICS system is deeply flawed. Law abiding citizens are in fact "inconvenienced" by it every day in every state in the union. If you get flagged by the FBI, it can take years and cost you tens of thousands of Dollars in legal fees to get your name cleared.

[Bo-4]

Bo, the fact is that under federal law, private sales between individuals are legal. If someone sells a gun over the internet and ships it, unless he is a federal firearms licensee and ships it to another licensee, he is breaking the law.

Regarding background checks... Just this morning, I transferred a firearm to a guy I ran an FBI NICS check on last week. The sale was delayed by the FBI. When the FBI issues a "delay", they have, by law, 3 working days to issue a final determination (Deny or Proceed). If they do not do so, the firearm may be legally transferred by the dealer. So, this guy was issued a "delay". After 3 working days (they don't count weekends or holidays), no final determination was received from the FBI. That meant this guy had to wait 5 days to get his gun. The idea that "no one is inconvenienced" is nonsense. I gave him the gun today with no final determination.

By the way, the guy we are talking about is a law enforcement officer, a criminal investigator the DA's office. I know a guy who was issued a "deny" by the FBI who to this day doesn't know why. They won't tell you. We actually ran an independent criminal history on the guy and except for a traffic citation for an expired license plate, he was completely clean. I know another guy whose only run in with the law was when he was 12. It was a minor offense, he was referred to a program that once completed, was supposed to result in his juvenile record being expunged. Even the judge who handled his case has no idea why, over 20 years later, without so much as a traffic ticket, he is not allowed to legally purchase a firearm for a licensed dealer. This guy was even cleared by the New Mexico Department of Public Safety to get a Concealed Handgun License and to work as an armed guard (Security is a heavily regulated industry in New Mexico).

The NICS system is deeply flawed. Law abiding citizens are in fact "inconvenienced" by it every day in every state in the union. If you get flagged by the FBI, it can take years and cost you tens of thousands of Dollars in legal fees to get your name cleared.

So YOU are a responsible gun owner / Applause

But your contention that the sales on Armlist involve folks as responsible as yourself?

ALL evidence points to the contrary and indeed criminals can buy from good guys AND criminals.

As for concealed carry? Over half the states now require ZERO in the way of licensing, training or BG checks.

Good idea?

[Cletus]

As for concealed carry? Over half the states now require ZERO in the way of licensing, training or BG checks.

That is false.

Who told you that? You should go find him and punch him out for lying to you.

[Captain Obvious]

That is false.

Who told you that? You should go find him and punch him out for lying to you.

Yeah lol, I posted the state-by-state stats on cc requirements last time he tried to pimp this.

I guess he's including Chicago suburbs where legal gun possession is wide open in practice.

[stjames1_53]

So YOU are a responsible gun owner / Applause

But your contention that the sales on Armlist involve folks as responsible as yourself?

ALL evidence points to the contrary and indeed criminals can buy from good guys AND criminals.

As for concealed carry? Over half the states now require ZERO in the way of licensing, training or BG checks.

Good idea?

it is a Right, not a group privilege................ any attempt to regulate a Right turns it into a privilege