Here's why. While that definition is historically accurate, it is not up to date. In more recent times socialists given up on ownership of the means of production, etc, and turned instead to the management of capitalism, iow, social democracy. The goal of egalitarianism have not changed, but the means have.
BTW, the economic definition of socialism is simple: central planning. This fits both the older means of socialism and the new.
Now, TM, explain to us how you liberals are not socialists.
coolwalker (11-08-2012)
R.I.P
patlape (11-08-2012)
Well lets see.
Tax the hell out of the rich. Take that money and redistribute it amongst the free loaders. Nope that's not socialism at all.
All sarcasm aside Obama is a socialist. Look at his mentors from young adult to college graduate. They have been socialist. Now to breakdown my sarcasm into something constructive. I need you lefties to correct me if I am wrong here, Obama wants/has a healthcare system that is run by the government. So we have government healthcare how is it going to be funded? Through tax dollars, who does Obama want to tax, the wealthy. Why are we taxing the wealthy, because they have more money. In order for the 80 percent to have healthcare we are taxing the 20 percent to pay for it. In simple terms we are redistributing the wealth. Redistribution of wealth is the very idea of socialism.
I will end with this. I lived in Europe for five years do you know how the pay for free medicine, unemployment and the like with 50-60% income tax. But wait there's more. After you take home 50 % of your earnings you pay a 20% sales tax on everything. Yup even food. Up to 80% of your income is taken to pay for those government run programs. That's insane! Do you know what their government structure is set up as? Socialist. Now let me ask one more question and I will get off the soap box. How did socialism work for Greece and Spain?
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