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    Could Illinois be the first state to file bankruptcy?

    Could Illinois be the first state to file bankruptcy?

    California is not far behind. If you are a state employee in Illinois, expect your retirement to be 20% of what you planed for.

    A financial crunch is spiraling into a serious problem for Illinois lawmakers, prompting some observers to wonder if the state might make history by becoming the first to go bankrupt. At the moment, it's impossible for a state to file for bankruptcy protection, which is only afforded to counties and municipalities like Detroit.

    Chapter 9 bankruptcy protection could be extended to states if Congress took up the issue, although Stanford Law School professor Michael McConnell noted in an article last year that he believed the precedents are iffy for extending the option to states. Nevertheless, Illinois is in a serious financial pickle, which is why radical options such as bankruptcy are being floated as potential solutions.


    Ratings agency Moody's Investor Service earlier this month downgraded Illinois' general obligation bonds to its lowest investment grade rating, citing the state's growing pile of unpaid bills and its mounting pension deficit. Illinois, by the way, has the lowest credit rating of any state. Lower ratings mean higher borrowing costs, since lenders view such borrowers as riskier bets.


    "Legislative gridlock has sidetracked efforts not only to address pension needs but also to achieve fiscal balance, allowing a backlog of bills to approach $15 billion, or about 40 percent of the state's operating budget," the agency noted.
    As noted by the Fiscal Times, Illinois is the only state that's been operating
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    If you thought the Wall Street bail-out was something wait until US states start revolting for paying for the bail-outs that are granted to States that blew it. Just another reason for animosity between the US States in the current Cold Civil War.

    I never succumbed to conspiracy theories but a Grand Plan my be coming to fruition.
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    It won't happen.

    Money in this era is literally bits of information being shuffled around, with a small portion of it represented by paper, and all of it backed up by the word of the United States that says "Yes, this is worth something." All the Federal Reserve needs to do is create more money to give to them...like they do with everything else...and it will be fine. They did it for the bailout. People think that our debt is such a big deal...it's not. Because debt literally translates to more money. It's all part of the financial bubble. "Forget about your house of cards, and I'll do mine."
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    Quote Originally Posted by spunkloaf View Post
    It won't happen.

    Money in this era is literally bits of information being shuffled around, with a small portion of it represented by paper, and all of it backed up by the word of the United States that says "Yes, this is worth something." All the Federal Reserve needs to do is create more money to give to them...like they do with everything else...and it will be fine. They did it for the bailout. People think that our debt is such a big deal...it's not. Because debt literally translates to more money. It's all part of the financial bubble. "Forget about your house of cards, and I'll do mine."

    That is a quaint idea.

    At some point we will have a currency collapse because we have too much debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spunkloaf View Post
    It won't happen.

    Money in this era is literally bits of information being shuffled around, with a small portion of it represented by paper, and all of it backed up by the word of the United States that says "Yes, this is worth something." All the Federal Reserve needs to do is create more money to give to them...like they do with everything else...and it will be fine. They did it for the bailout. People think that our debt is such a big deal...it's not. Because debt literally translates to more money. It's all part of the financial bubble. "Forget about your house of cards, and I'll do mine."
    You probably didn't think Detroit would happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyz View Post
    If you thought the Wall Street bail-out was something wait until US states start revolting for paying for the bail-outs that are granted to States that blew it. Just another reason for animosity between the US States in the current Cold Civil War.

    I never succumbed to conspiracy theories but a Grand Plan my be coming to fruition.
    Or another reason for the feds tostay out of state business and follow their Constitutional limitations. I wonder how much of Illinois debt might be connected to unfunded mandates?

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    $251B in unfunded pension liability?
    Congress would have to act to allow them to file for bankruptcy. I think that's what they need. Not a bailout but a restructuring of debt which may include drastic reductions in pensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapRover View Post
    You probably didn't think Detroit would happen.
    If he was correct, end all taxes. Let the government print money at will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Could Illinois be the first state to file bankruptcy?

    California is not far behind. If you are a state employee in Illinois, expect your retirement to be 20% of what you planed for.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NapRover View Post
    $251B in unfunded pension liability?
    Congress would have to act to allow them to file for bankruptcy. I think that's what they need. Not a bailout but a restructuring of debt which may include drastic reductions in pensions.
    This is just the beginning. Many states are in the same shape.
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