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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    No, that's not what I said. I did NOT say the victim took drugs or was competent to take drugs. I was making a general statement about drugs having labels and that labels are required to inform the consumer specific information depending on the type of drug.
    I said the "victim" took drugs because he did take drugs. He was on anti-depressants and those drugs are known to cause suicidal tendencies in people. So why not hold his physician or the drug companies responsible as well? Or how about his parents? They got divorced, which is what originally caused him to become depressed and suicidal. Hell, why not put all of society on trial? We all contributed to his death in our own way.

    Here's what I will say. You and I don't communicate well for whatever the reason. Some people just don't click and that's okay. Let's agree that we don't agree on anything and call it a day.
    It just sounds like you are not up the challenge of a serious debate.
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    She's a $#@! and a psycho, but what she is guilty of, exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    This sets a bad precedent.
    I'm inclined to agree...

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    Were you all aware that the boy who killed himself tried to convince this girl to enter into a suicide pact with him? According to the logic of this verdict, that would mean he was guilty of attempted manslaughter. Legally speaking, she could argue that her actions were in self-defense. That is how absurd this verdict is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    She's a $#@! and a psycho, but what she is guilty of, exactly?
    She just seems like a depressed, confused teenager to me. She originally tried to talk him out of it, but he wouldn't listen. He even tried to convince her to enter into a suicide pact with him. According to the logic of this verdict, that would make him guilty of attempted manslaughter.
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    I view it as I would inciting violence or cases where bullying has lead to suicide. What you say to another person that encourages them to do something to themselves or someone else should result in consequences if it actually results in that person taking the action (like suicide or murder or terrorism). I do not think of it as a free speech issue. I think that this does create an interesting precedent that could have a positive or negative impact on similar, future cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    What you say to another person that encourages them to do something to themselves or someone else should result in consequences if it actually results in that person taking the action (like suicide or murder or terrorism).
    So when companies spend millions on advertisements encouraging people to drink beer, liquor, or wine, and thousands of people go out and drink themselves to death as a result, what should happen to those companies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I said the "victim" took drugs because he did take drugs. He was on anti-depressants and those drugs are known to cause suicidal tendencies in people. So why not hold his physician or the drug companies responsible as well? Or how about his parents? They got divorced, which is what originally caused him to become depressed and suicidal. Hell, why not put all of society on trial? We all contributed to his death in our own way.



    It just sounds like you are not up the challenge of a serious debate.
    I'm up to the challenge if there was a challenge. Your argument borders on the ridiculous. If we're going to use your formula then let's apply that to molesters. They committed molestation because they were molested so they shouldn't be held responsible for the act they committed.

    I get it, you think this girl is misunderstood. She just needs a friend. Boo hoo hoo Maybe she reminds you of someone you know personally.....maybe even yourself.

    The fact is she encouraged him rather than calling someone to help prevent it. To me, it's no different then another story someone recently posted in which a man was drowning and kids video taped it and did nothing to help him. They should be in jail for murder. Because there isn't a law against watching someone die the justice system had to find another law to charge them with when everyone with common sense knows they are murderers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    I get it, you think this girl is misunderstood. She just needs a friend. Boo hoo hoo Maybe she reminds you of someone you know personally.....maybe even yourself.
    I always suspected you were a bitch, but now my suspicions have been confirmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    So when companies spend millions on advertisements encouraging people to drink beer, liquor, or wine, and thousands of people go out and drink themselves to death as a result, what should happen to those companies?
    Companies include warnings on their products that are legally required. Bars are only allowed to serve someone up to a certain point. Advertising a product that, when used responsibly, is not really going to cause death, is a lot different than encouraging someone to kill themselves or inciting violence. There is a pretty big difference.

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