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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I guess terms like RINO and "Trump isn't a conservative" are just made up as well...

    Or is that somehow different?


    Tu quoque!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Actually, it is. The guy's a liberal, but is dimissed as not true to some vague liberal principles. See Wolf's and Crepitus's posts.
    Not advocating violence is not "some vague principal".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    "he's dismissed as being representative of liberalism" is what I said.

    And let's be honest, he claims to be a liberal:



    From his twitter account: https://twitter.com/jessebenn?lang=en


    Simply condemn his words.
    I could claim to be a Martian, would that make it true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Tu quoque!!!
    Sho nuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Whoever wrote that is a moron and certainly not representative of liberals in general
    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Not advocating violence is not "some vague principal".

    Thanks for the clarification. So condemn his advocating violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I could claim to be a Martian, would that make it true?

    Point is he's a self-professed liberal despite the no true Scotsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. So condemn his advocating violence.
    I just did. You quoted it. Did you not even read the posts?

    Ok, just to be clear: the person who wrote the piece in the op is not representative of liberals in general. We, or I at least, do not think shooting congressmen of any stripe (or anyone else with opposing political views for that matter) is acceptable behavior and we should not be encouraging it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I just did. You quoted it. Did you not even read the posts?

    Ok, just to be clear: the person who wrote the piece in the op is not representative of liberals in general. We, or I at least, do not think shooting congressmen of any stripe (or anyone else with opposing political views for that matter) is acceptable behavior and we should not be encouraging it.
    Yes, your second post got to the point. And I agree, what he advocates is abhorent.

    But now you go back to he's not a true liberal when all it is is you don't agree with his position.


    There's some young libertarian bloggers, like That Guy T and Matthew Drake, among others, that I listen to with some interest but as of late they have turned into Trump supporters. I disagree with them nearly 100% on libertarian grounds but that doesn't mean they aren't still libertarians. Libertarianism is a broad range of views, just as liberalism and conservatism are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Point is he's a self-professed liberal despite the no true Scotsman.
    And I am a self professed kicker for the Washington Redskins.

    Which makes not one damn bit of difference if they don't want me on the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Actually, it is. The guy's a liberal, but is dimissed as not true to some vague liberal principles. See Wolf's and Crepitus's posts.
    No. The thread title is "the left's response." It quotes one man as representative of the entire left. Wolf and Crepitus were saying that Benn is not representative of the entire left, not that he wasn't a "true liberal."
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