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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    The problem is that the Russians aren't supposed to be there to kill Syrian rebels rather to fight ISIS. They aren't doing that...
    You actually believe that anti-Russian propaganda? Really?
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    There is no meaningful difference between "the rebels" and "ISIS". They are both Islamic fundamentalists who want to destroy secular Syria as represented by Assad. Helping them is demented and unlawful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    There is no meaningful difference between "the rebels" and "ISIS". They are both Islamic fundamentalists who want to destroy secular Syria as represented by Assad. Helping them is demented and unlawful.
    I agree. The few moderates have no power in this civil war. It is radicals v. Assad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I agree. The few moderates have no power in this civil war. It is radicals v. Assad.
    The only real moderates are the Kurds and they do not favor overthrowing the Assad government, which is understandable given the alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You actually believe that anti-Russian propaganda? Really?
    Well either they are or aren't bombing Syrian rebels.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Well either they are or aren't bombing Syrian rebels.
    They are bombing them, as they should be. The "rebels" are AQ. They just keep changing their name every few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    They are bombing them, as they should be. The "rebels" are AQ. They just keep changing their name every few months.
    The FSA was not AQ and yet that didn't stop the Russians from bombing them. That isn't propaganda. That's the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    The FSA was not AQ and yet that didn't stop the Russians from bombing them. That isn't propaganda. That's the truth.
    The "FSA" has not existed in any meaningful form for years. They either disbanded or defected over to ISIS and AQ. The only "rebel" forces of any note are ISIS and AQ. AQ is being portrayed in western media as the "moderate" rebels. I suppose in comparison to ISIS, anyone can seem "moderate".

    The only real moderates in Syria (aside from the Assad faction) are against regime change.

    In short, the mainstream media and the government have been lying to you about Russia. Shocking, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The "FSA" has not existed in any meaningful form for years. They either disbanded or defected over to ISIS and AQ. The only "rebel" forces of any note are ISIS and AQ. AQ is being portrayed in western media as the "moderate" rebels. I suppose in comparison to ISIS, anyone can seem "moderate".



    The only real moderates in Syria (aside from the Assad faction) are against regime change.



    In short, the mainstream media and the government have been lying to you about Russia. Shocking, I know.
    Not sure how that all negates my point.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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