Members banned from this thread: Bo-4


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 6 of 11 FirstFirst ... 2345678910 ... LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 101

Thread: Trump cuts National Forest budget by 71%

  1. #51
    Points: 114,060, Level: 82
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 2,590
    Overall activity: 61.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience Points1 year registered
    Tahuyaman's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    245721
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Bremerton, Washington or Syaulita, Mexico. Depending on the time of year
    Posts
    50,082
    Points
    114,060
    Level
    82
    Thanks Given
    5,553
    Thanked 14,680x in 11,422 Posts
    Mentioned
    314 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Meh, environmentalists complain about violations of nature but then complain there will be no roads so they can't drive their SUVs so they can violate nature.

    That reminded me of the time in Seattle where a bunch of whacked out environmentalists were in plastic kayaks protesting an oil rig heading through on the way to Alaska.


    They were chanting about the evils of fossil fuel use and such. Someone asked them about the hypocrisy of transporting their petroleum based kayaks to the Puget Sound in their gas guzzling SUV's and they said that it's OK because they are using the resource responsibly.

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to Tahuyaman For This Useful Post:

    Peter1469 (06-19-2017)

  3. #52
    Points: 92,468, Level: 74
    Level completed: 9%, Points required for next Level: 2,282
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Chloe's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    234161
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Cascadia
    Posts
    15,581
    Points
    92,468
    Level
    74
    Thanks Given
    4,691
    Thanked 9,094x in 5,259 Posts
    Mentioned
    1397 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Meh, environmentalists complain about violations of nature but then complain there will be no roads so they can't drive their SUVs so they can violate nature.
    Many environmentalists, and I would put myself in this group, would love to see the expansion of truly dedicated and safe bike lanes in order to reduce car traffic and usage. Most roadways are never built with bikes in mind and in my opinion that should change. Bikes should have equal focus, and there have been plenty of studies and engineering examples that show dedicated bike lanes can dramatically reduce the amount of emissions in and around cities and reduce injuries and deaths
    May your weeds become wildflowers

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Chloe For This Useful Post:

    Green Arrow (06-20-2017)

  5. #53
    Points: 92,468, Level: 74
    Level completed: 9%, Points required for next Level: 2,282
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Chloe's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    234161
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Cascadia
    Posts
    15,581
    Points
    92,468
    Level
    74
    Thanks Given
    4,691
    Thanked 9,094x in 5,259 Posts
    Mentioned
    1397 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    That reminded me of the time in Seattle where a bunch of whacked out environmentalists were in plastic kayaks protesting an oil rig heading through on the way to Alaska.


    They were chanting about the evils of fossil fuel use and such. Someone asked them about the hypocrisy of transporting their petroleum based kayaks to the Puget Sound in their gas guzzling SUV's and they said that it's OK because they are using the resource responsibly.
    The difference between a kayak made with some petroleum vs an oil rig carrying millions of pounds of oil is not comparable.
    May your weeds become wildflowers

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Chloe For This Useful Post:

    Bo-4 (06-19-2017),Green Arrow (06-20-2017)

  7. #54
    Points: 100,108, Level: 77
    Level completed: 7%, Points required for next Level: 2,442
    Overall activity: 59.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Ethereal's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    448054
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    35,813
    Points
    100,108
    Level
    77
    Thanks Given
    6,493
    Thanked 20,778x in 13,117 Posts
    Mentioned
    834 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    Do they? I don't consistently see that at all. Ive been to a number of national parks, state parks, wilderness preserves, sanctuaries, local "wilderness" parks and so on and the difference of quality sometimes it's staggering between national and state and state to local.
    Well, yes. People pay for what they value. If a certain park isn't getting funding, then that means people don't value it as much as they do other things. Government merely says to those people: We reject your values and substitute our own. How is that fair? Suppose I want my money to go towards my healthcare or my retirement savings instead of some fancy visitor center in a forest preserve I'll probably visit once or twice in my entire life?
    Two things awe me most, the starry sky above me and the moral law within me.
    --Immanuel Kant

  8. #55
    Points: 114,060, Level: 82
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 2,590
    Overall activity: 61.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience Points1 year registered
    Tahuyaman's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    245721
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Bremerton, Washington or Syaulita, Mexico. Depending on the time of year
    Posts
    50,082
    Points
    114,060
    Level
    82
    Thanks Given
    5,553
    Thanked 14,680x in 11,422 Posts
    Mentioned
    314 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I don't agree with this. We are abusing our SoF - riding them hard and putting them away wet. SoF does not win wars. Conventional forces do. The actual war part of Iraq was fast and decisive. What the US must understand is that you can't bring democracy where it is not wanted.

    There will be more peer or near-peer battles in the future. Force on force.
    There is always going to be the need for conventional forces.


    You are right in that our form of democracy is not appropriate for or even desired by every nation on earth. For some reason, we have developed this idealistic notion that every nation on earth can be a place where democracy can thrive. That just isn't the case and it never will be.

  9. #56
    Points: 114,060, Level: 82
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 2,590
    Overall activity: 61.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience Points1 year registered
    Tahuyaman's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    245721
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Bremerton, Washington or Syaulita, Mexico. Depending on the time of year
    Posts
    50,082
    Points
    114,060
    Level
    82
    Thanks Given
    5,553
    Thanked 14,680x in 11,422 Posts
    Mentioned
    314 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    The difference between a kayak made with some petroleum vs an oil rig carrying millions of pounds of oil is not comparable.
    Then you support their hypocricy. That's fine.

    Besides, the oil rig carries no crude oil. It extracts this natural resource from the earth so it can be refined for use by people like you and me. Even the protesters gain the benefits of this product.
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 06-19-2017 at 04:00 PM.

  10. #57
    Points: 128,402, Level: 86
    Level completed: 74%, Points required for next Level: 848
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience Points1 year registeredOverdriveRecommendation Second Class
    Bo-4's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    294112
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    31,812
    Points
    128,402
    Level
    86
    Thanks Given
    9,866
    Thanked 9,082x in 7,329 Posts
    Mentioned
    570 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Actually no... Those of us not retired are paying for your SS and Medicaid because they are both defunct, socialized entitlement programs... If they weren't the debt wouldn't be increasing on those programs...
    I am not retired - 7 more years to achieve my full benefit of $2100 at present.

    Will you now inject the "Ponzi Scheme" Meme @Private Pickle?

    Pathetic
    Fascism begins with a central argument that the world is broken .. everything is a mess -Unknown

  11. #58
    Points: 128,402, Level: 86
    Level completed: 74%, Points required for next Level: 848
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience Points1 year registeredOverdriveRecommendation Second Class
    Bo-4's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    294112
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    31,812
    Points
    128,402
    Level
    86
    Thanks Given
    9,866
    Thanked 9,082x in 7,329 Posts
    Mentioned
    570 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    I know when you die it will be one less person I'm paying for... Fair?
    You're not paying $#@! and that was a $#@!ty thing to say.

    Buh-Bye
    Fascism begins with a central argument that the world is broken .. everything is a mess -Unknown

  12. #59
    Points: 128,402, Level: 86
    Level completed: 74%, Points required for next Level: 848
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience Points1 year registeredOverdriveRecommendation Second Class
    Bo-4's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    294112
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    31,812
    Points
    128,402
    Level
    86
    Thanks Given
    9,866
    Thanked 9,082x in 7,329 Posts
    Mentioned
    570 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    Then why was the AF chopping parts from other planes?
    Link?
    Fascism begins with a central argument that the world is broken .. everything is a mess -Unknown

  13. #60
    Points: 128,402, Level: 86
    Level completed: 74%, Points required for next Level: 848
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience Points1 year registeredOverdriveRecommendation Second Class
    Bo-4's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    294112
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    31,812
    Points
    128,402
    Level
    86
    Thanks Given
    9,866
    Thanked 9,082x in 7,329 Posts
    Mentioned
    570 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yes it will. One of the biggest reasons the USA is under threat from abroad is because of its meddling in foreign countries. Less meddling will mean less hatred, which will make us all safer.
    Winner Winner Chicken Dinner to THIS poster! ^
    Fascism begins with a central argument that the world is broken .. everything is a mess -Unknown

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts


Critical Acclaim
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO