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hanger4 (06-22-2017),stjames1_53 (06-22-2017)
Normal influence isn't an issue. Encouraging and perhaps helping hostile foreign powers to hack your opponent's records and illegally releasing them drip by drip in an effort to swing an election is an entirely different matter.
The gop plays word games to confuse their simpleton base. The rest of us understand what is at play.
You do, too.
Last edited by Bethere; 06-22-2017 at 05:00 PM.
what a line of bullsh!t............
exactly how did Trump and company rig the election?
Where's your proof?
You got a lot of opinions and no facts to support your ridiculous assertions
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Ravens Fan (06-22-2017)
So was it hacking, collusion or influence? Obviously hacking cannot be proven, since no votes were changed or affected... per the Obama admin officials.
There is still no evidence of collusion... per everyone privy to the investigations thus far.
So that leaves simple influence, which any one, including either of us could do.
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then you're dealing with the *ahem* Russians hacking the DNC it has nothing to do with the outcome....btw, are you denying that Podesta and Clinton didn't rig the democrat ticket?
Truth will always find it's way to the light. That's the truth, inconvenient to you, but the three, Podesta, Clinton, and Schultz ran a dirty race
Trump had nothing to do with it.
Your gal lost because she referred to the taxpayers as deplorable. That comment alone cost her the independent votes
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"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
- Thucydides
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
resister (06-22-2017)
Hacking election machines is largely irrelevant to this conversation. Having said that Johnson noted that dozens of states saw Russian attempts to do just that and that one or two had deeper issues he was unwilling to discuss in an open hearing.
As for collusion? It's still an open and expanding investigation. Any evidence would only be presented to Congress behind closed doors.
Suffice it to say that there IS evidence as there was enough probable cause for REPUBLICANS to open investigations in both houses of Congress and to name a REPUBLICAN special counsel. Also enough probable cause to seat multiple grand juries and to issue and reauthorize multiple fisa warrants.
Thanks for asking.
Last edited by Bethere; 06-22-2017 at 05:22 PM.
Last edited by stjames1_53; 06-22-2017 at 05:29 PM.
For waltky: http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
- Thucydides
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum