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    Escalating: Russia Warns USA In Syria

    Russia warns it will treat US-led coalition jets in parts of Syria as targets after US downed Syrian plane

    By LUIS MARTINEZ Jun 19, 2017, 9:25 AM ET

    The Russian Defense Ministry blasted the U.S.'s shooting down of a Syrian fighter jet as a "massive violation of international law" and said it will begin treating U.S.-led coalition jets flying west of the Euphrates River in Syria as targets.

    The ministry's comments Monday came after a U.S. Navy fighter jet on Sunday shot down a Syrian fighter jet that dropped bombs on rebel forces fighting ISIS in Syria.

    It was the first time the U.S. has engaged in air-to-air combat in Syria, signaling an escalation of the conflict. It is is also the first time an American aircraft has shot down any other country's plane in air-to-air combat since 1999, when a U.S. Air Force F-16 shot down a Serbian Mig-29 during the Kosovo air campaign.

    Russia, which is backing the Syrian regime in the civil war, slammed the U.S. action as a violation of Syria's sovereignty.

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    The Trump administration continues to violate the constitution, international law, and common sense.

    The Congress has NOT authorized a war in Syria against that country's sovereign government. Therefore, ANY act of war committed in Syria against the government is a CRIME.

    Moreover, the UN Security Council has not authorized the USA to wage war against Syria's government, making the downing of a Syrian jet a unilateral breach of international law.

    Even worse, this is being done to help "rebels" who Trump said during the campaign "we have no idea who they are" and that our biggest problem in Syria was ISIS, not Assad.

    By attacking the SECULAR government of Syria, Trump is aiding the TERRORISTS who constitute the bulk of the rebel forces.

    Easily the most disturbing aspect of this CRIMINAL escalation in Syria is how it is effecting our relationship with Russia, a NUCLEAR power. Things have gotten so bad that Russia is now treating US aircraft as potential targets in Syrian airspace. This is INSANE.

    Americans and their Congressional representatives MUST stop Trump before something truly horrible happens.
    Two things awe me most, the starry sky above me and the moral law within me.
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    It makes sense that Trump supporters and Democrats would want to avoid having this discussion.

    Trump supporters would have to reconcile Trump's escalation in Syria with his campaign rhetoric, whereas Democrats would have to reconcile Trump's escalation in Syria with their "Russian collusion" narrative.

    In both cases, they're dealing with highly contradictory information that is extremely difficult to reconcile.
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    *almost types something*
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    $#@! the western ruling class. Trump isn't excluded from that. What a bunch of insane psychopaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decedent View Post
    *almost types something*
    Is that a tacit admission that you cannot reconcile the "Russian collusion" narrative with the increasingly aggressive stance Trump is taking in Syria? It seems he's doing exactly what Hillary Clinton wanted to do there. You should be happy, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    $#@! the western ruling class. Trump isn't excluded from that. What a bunch of insane psychopaths.
    Trump has surrendered his foreign policy agenda to the neocons. Not that this will assuage them, but Trump seems to think it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Is that a tacit admission that you cannot reconcile the "Russian collusion" narrative with the increasingly aggressive stance Trump is taking in Syria? It seems he's doing exactly what Hillary Clinton wanted to do there. You should be happy, no?
    *almost answers*
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    This is going to take the predictable twists and turns.

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    Our mission should be: kill Isis

    we should leave Assad alone, unless he starts gassing people again. He's not worth going to war with Russia.

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    Russia is pretty good these days about escalation and avoiding quagmires. They can't afford protracted combat with a peer. And I doubt that could justify applying the nuclear doctrine so far away from Russia.
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